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Sorry this is not all conclusive but thought some might to know this much anyway.

When I was changing tires today at auto-x I tried my 10 1/2" Cobra R replicas on the front with 1/4" spacers. They have 315/35/17 Victoracers mounted on them. I tried this before without spacers and the rim just barely touched the strut. With the 1/4" spacer it looked to have plenty of room and even rotated by the wheel weights with no touching on the strut. I also turned the wheels from lock to lock and nothing touched. Here's the not all conclusive part. I had the car on the floor jack while doing this and did not load the suspension or drive it. It looks like it should have plenty of room but I'll try to mount both of them some time and take it for a spin. They stuck outside the fenders about 1 1/2".

When I was putting the car back together to go home I did the fronts first and tried my deep dish 10 1/2" bullets and they were a no go. Would not clear the brake caliper at all.

Running the 315's on the rear has been great and I hope to run them all the way around. Extra auto-x miles have been great. I can't seem to kill these old victos on the rear.

Had a pretty good day and took my 3rd SM win out of 4 events run this year in the Dixie Region.
 

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Han Solo said:
When I was putting the car back together to go home I did the fronts first and tried my deep dish 10 1/2" bullets and they were a no go. Would not clear the brake caliper at all.
What brakes are you running, and what brand of Bullits do you have?
 

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FWIW, I have some American Racing Torque Thrust II's(17x11)with Nitto 555R 315/35/17's on them that I test fitted as well. The results WITH the spacer made me smile. I drove the car pretty hard with the 11's on the front and the only rub I heard was a full lock turn......I can handle that.

I believe next season I'm going to get another set of the 17x11's and put the V710 315's on them.
 

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With my 9" 03 Cobras on front with 275 tires I can just stick the tip of my pinky between the rim and the CO spring. Plus I apparently get some minor rubbing on the anti-sway bar at full lock (you might want to check that yourself w/ your 315s). No spacers here, though.
 

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Hell, with 275's and 9" Cobra R's(no spacers)I rub the swaybar and part of the back side(rolled edge)of the K-member.

I also run 17x9.5's on the front for daily driving(275/40), and it rubs the same places, just more easily. You can see where my fender liners have worn through and the paint off the K-member and swaybar are gone.

Didn't a wise man once say, "Rubbin's racin'"? :)
 

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I also had rubbing on the front sway bar of my 95 Cobra when I ran Cobra R's and 275-40 Victoracers. The inner fenders also took a beating until I stepped up to 850# front springs.

Now, on my 95 GT I have no clearance issues with CCW 10.5" wheels and 275-40 V-710's, which are noticeably wider than the Victoracers. I am currently considering buying a set of 295-40 V-710's if, and a big if, I can fit them without going to a wheel spacer. I tried using a 1/4" spacer on the rears because of some minor clearance issues on the inner wheel well at full jounce but it felt as if I wasn't getting enough stud thread into the lug nut. Not only that but the lug nuts tended to loose some nut torque after running a couple of events, at least compared to the fronts they did. I would not feel confident with wheel spacers unless I installed longer wheel studs and I am just not up for that.

Has anyone been successful running a 295-40 tire up front without wheels spacers or fender flares?
 

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Patrick Olsen said:
What brakes are you running, and what brand of Bullits do you have?
Cobra brakes and wheel replicas deep dish bullets.

2k2GT said:
FWIW, I have some American Racing Torque Thrust II's(17x11)with Nitto 555R 315/35/17's on them that I test fitted as well. The results WITH the spacer made me smile. I drove the car pretty hard with the 11's on the front and the only rub I heard was a full lock turn......I can handle that.
That's good info on the Torque Thrust II's(17x11). What backspace are they? Do you know how much they weigh?
 

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That's good info on the Torque Thrust II's(17x11). What backspace are they? Do you know how much they weigh?
To be honest, I'm not really sure, I want to say it is a 7" backspace. If you goto www.wheelsforless.com and look up the TTII's for the 94> Mustang's, it will give you the specs for the wheel.

I'd like to note that I have stock brake calipers on my GT, just for the record.

As for the weight. A 1/2 worn out Nitto 555R 315 wheel/tire combo is CONSIDERABLY lighter than a 17x9 Cobra R wheel with 275/40 Kumho V710's. I mean CONSIDERABLY!!! It may be just the weight of the V710 coupled with the lightness of the drag radial, but it is alot lighter.
 

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Cobra brakes and wheel replicas deep dish bullets.
Interesting. I emailed one of the replica manufacturers (can't find the email, I think it was AFS) and was under the impression that the center section of the wheel wasn't changed on their deep dish versions, they had basically just added additional lip to the OEM design. I guess Wheel Replicas must have done their wheels differently to give the deep dish more of a dished look.

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Patrick Olsen said:
Interesting. I emailed one of the replica manufacturers (can't find the email, I think it was AFS) and was under the impression that the center section of the wheel wasn't changed on their deep dish versions, they had basically just added additional lip to the OEM design. I guess Wheel Replicas must have done their wheels differently to give the deep dish more of a dished look.

Pat
I think the difference is the wheels having a depression in the center. It makes them easier to mount tires on if there is a depression to push the bead down into while stretching it around the rim lip. They never intended them to be used on the front or the offset would be less to clear the strut.

I think it's safe to say between 2k2GT's running 11's without rubbing problems and my 10 1/2" Cobra R's clearing Cobra calipers you could get away with the Cobra R's over the Cobra calipers as long as you use 1/4" spacers. The FR500 wheels look like they may have the flat inner rim too but I don't have any of those to try. Mustang Tuning has those on sale for $159.
 

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I think the difference is the wheels having a depression in the center. It makes them easier to mount tires on if there is a depression to push the bead down into while stretching it around the rim lip. They never intended them to be used on the front or the offset would be less to clear the strut.
Ah, so the interference was at the inner circumference of the wheel (if that makes any sense)? I just ASSumed it was that the backs of the spokes of the wheel wouldn't clear the face of the caliper.

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Ah, so the interference was at the inner circumference of the wheel (if that makes any sense)? I just ASSumed it was that the backs of the spokes of the wheel wouldn't clear the face of the caliper.

Pat
That is correct.
 

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OK, so the 17x10.5" Cobra R replicas will fit up front over Cobra brakes, but the 17x10.5" Bullitt replicas won't. Has anyone ever tried fitting 17x10.5" FR500s or '03 Cobras over Cobra brakes? 2k2GT, have you ever upgraded from the stock calipers to the 13" PBRs, and if so, did you try your 17x11" TTII's again on the front?

Thanks,
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Patrick, I have since upgraded to th MACH1 setup up front(to be specific in these tight tolerance situations), but have NOT tried the 11" up front again, as i've put those wheels on my girlfriends super high performance automatic V6/auto. :(
 

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Did I hear whipping noises as I read the last part of that post? :D
 

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Well, I wanted some "open-track" wheels on my car, and wanted same size all around. But yea.........the "...I bet those would look good on MY car" comments got old. :(
 

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OK, so the 17x10.5" Cobra R replicas will fit up front over Cobra brakes, but the 17x10.5" Bullitt replicas won't. Has anyone ever tried fitting 17x10.5" FR500s or '03 Cobras over Cobra brakes? 2k2GT, have you ever upgraded from the stock calipers to the 13" PBRs, and if so, did you try your 17x11" TTII's again on the front?

Thanks,
Pat
it is because the deep dish bullitts are a reverse mount wheel. so more than likely any reverse mount wheel will not work on the front.
 

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I am running 18 X 9 Saleen replica wheels on the front with 265 35's and they still rub on a full lock turn. Is it spacers that allow you to do this?

I barely fit 18 X 10's on the back with 305 30's

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Just a thought that popped into my head....The 17x9.5's that I fit on the front of the stock GT brakes barely fits. They WILL not fit with the MACH/BULLIT/COBRA 13" kit without a small spacer.

I have also seen this same 17x11 wheel with a 335/35/17 fitted and it was on the back of a 99> GT.
 
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