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Where was this about a month ago???? I bought the harness and everything from 50resto. If this still doesn't work, what could be my problem, because now that i look at the diagram, i think i had it wired correctly. A stock one works fine, btw. Also, there are 3 posts down on the solenoid on the mini starter. The two big ones, and the spade connector one. Which big post gets the 12v constant?
 

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there should be only 2 connections on the mini starter.. one is a threaded stud you put the big wire on followed by a nut... and then there is a small male spade lug..

the firewall solenoid is as follows.. the left side is 12 volt constant (connected straight to the battery).. the small connection on top is the ignition "trigger" that jumps the power over to the right side of the solenoid when it is entergized.. the right side has 0 power except when you go to "start" the car.. it is only provided power until the car catches and you let off the key and then it goes back to having 0 power going through it..
 

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I'll take a pic wednesday. Both mini starters i have had, have 2 big threaded posts on the solenoid on the side of the starter itself. The first was the 1.1kw ford racing starter, and when i would start the car, it would sound like the starter is hanging up on something, making this horrible loud grinding noise, and still did this for about a second after i let go of the key. Same exact thing happened with the lifetime mini starter from napa.
 

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Yeah post a picture if you can...

BTW when I switched to a mini starter I had to put washers between the starter and the bellhousing to keep it from grinding.. you might need to do the same..
 

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MYLITTLEHO said:
Yeah post a picture if you can...

BTW when I switched to a mini starter I had to put washers between the starter and the bellhousing to keep it from grinding.. you might need to do the same..
So the engine block plate isn't enough? I'll try and get pics asap.
 

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My OEM starter had the gear set farther back into the housing than any other starter i have seen... The stock replacement one I got would grind so I pulled it out and sure enough it was different than my original one.. The OEM one had the gear set farther back into the housing and the other one was up closer to the flywheel... no matter what starter I got.. I had to use washers to space it out or it would grind continously after it started...
 

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My OEM starter had the gear set farther back into the housing than any other starter i have seen... The stock replacement one I got would grind so I pulled it out and sure enough it was different than my original one.. The OEM one had the gear set farther back into the housing and the other one was up closer to the flywheel... no matter what starter I got.. I had to use washers to space it out or it would grind continously after it started...
I'm wondering if thats been my problem this entire time. My engine block plate is actually missing a chunk right where the starter meets up with the bell, but i found two washers that were the same width as the block plate, and used them. Maybe i need to double up the washers. About how much farther backed out does the starter need to be. All i can say is though, i'm the master when it comes to changing starters now, haha.
 

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I used the stock block plate and just added 1/16" zinc washers worked like a charm
 

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I used the stock block plate and just added 1/16" zinc washers worked like a charm
OK, the starter is wired up 100% correctly, and i have two washers, equaling about an 1/8th of an inch on each bolt, between the bell and the starter face, and i can hear it grinding a tiny bit still. I'm about to give up. I got really pissed today too, cuz i thought i messed the brand new starter up, or killed my brand new battery, cuz i left the little red and blue ignition wire unhooked at the solenoid on the fenderwell. Yea, once i found out thats why it wouldn't turn over at all, i don't think i've ever thrown a socket that far before. Hope the snap on man gets here soon.

Is there a chance, i have a flywheel out of an older car or something?
 

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you guys are doing this the hard way. just make a short wire with a spade on one end,and put a ring on the other to jump it over to the big starter cable terminal on the starter. does the same thing and much neater and less complicated
 

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bottlefedgt said:
you guys are doing this the hard way. just make a short wire with a spade on one end,and put a ring on the other to jump it over to the big starter cable terminal on the starter. does the same thing and much neater and less complicated

The instructions in my fms mini starter strongly advise against this. I cant exactly remember why but I do remeber the instructions saying not to use a jumper wire becuse damage can occur to the starter.

Eric
 

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