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It won't be long before its time to change my front pads on my Bullitt. As much as I would love a new pimpy brake setup, I don't have the money and it wouldn't be that huge of a benefit to me. I drive the car to and from work everyday and I autocross when I have an opportunity (probably averages out to once a month).

Right now I believe that I have OEM replacement pads up front and I was thinking of going with something a little more performance oriented up front. What options are out there? From what I have seen the aggressive street pads are HPS, HP Ceramic, PFC-Z, and Brembo Pads. I'm not sure if the HP+ push the limit of a streetable pad or not.

Does anyone have any experience with the Brembo pads? Tirerack lists them as comparable to the HPS pads, which sounds like an aggressive street pad with good dusting and low noise. They also have a pretty nice price point. I'm not sure how the HP+ pads behave, but it sounds like they give max braking with lots of dust and the possibility to squeal like a city bus.
 

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I don't think I could handle the HP+'s for daily driver duties. The HPS's would offer a more reasonable decision for what you've stated the intended uses would be(or some other brand equivalent to that level performance/dusting/wear abilities).

I think the "super hardcore's" will tell you to have TWO sets of pads(like wheels/tires). Thats probably going to be my route, although more for just a front pad change considering how easy a pad swap is on the Cobra/Bullit setup. I run HP+'s, but will downgrade to HPS's and have a set of HP+'s(or XP10's)for abusing. For the rears, i'll use an HPS pad(or XP8)for full time use.

However, I am getting pretty lazy and can't wait until "one lug/nut" wheels and on board air jacks become wholesale priced. ;)

EDIT: You caused me to go "brake browsing". I found these rotors at a decent price...appx. same as store bought OE variety.

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp?&make=ATE&model=PremiumOne+Slotted+Rotor&group=PremiumOne+Slotted+Rotor&autoMake=Ford&autoModel=Mustang+Mach+1&autoYear=2003&autoModClar=&perfCode=A

EDIT AGAIN: Stupid me, that price is for REAR. :shakehead Thought it said FRONT.
 

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I think the "super hardcore's" will tell you to have TWO sets of pads(like wheels/tires).
EDIT: You caused me to go "brake browsing". I found these rotors at a decent price...appx. same as store bought OE variety.

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp?&make=ATE&model=PremiumOne+Slotted+Rotor&group=PremiumOne+Slotted+Rotor&autoMake=Ford&autoModel=Mustang+Mach+1&autoYear=2003&autoModClar=&perfCode=A

Right now I won't be swapping pads and rotors. That may change in the future, but right now that is a solution to a problem that I don't have. I certainly don't need a hard core pad for autox use and I don't do lapping days/OT events right now.

Those rotors look like a good deal but I wonder what their quality is up to. Also, that pattern makes me a little self conscious.
 

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Right now I won't be swapping pads and rotors. That may change in the future, but right now that is a solution to a problem that I don't have. I certainly don't need a hard core pad for autox use and I don't do lapping days/OT events right now.

Those rotors look like a good deal but I wonder what their quality is up to. Also, that pattern makes me a little self conscious.

I've had those ATE rotors on the back of my car for 3 years and they have been excellent. They don't rust up like the others do from sitting and they've held up great. They're made by Continental-Teves who makes some of Ford's OE brake system so they're a relatively reputable company too. The rears aren't nearly as important as the front so I figured I'd give them a try and I haven't been disappointed at all.
 

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I use the Brembo/Galfer pads for street use on my car. They came with the 4 Piston Brembos I bought. They work well, some noise, but dust like crazy. When the car still had PBR calipers, I used the Performance Friction pads from Autozone
 

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If you Daily the car, the HP+ are definetly a bad idea... I drove em on my trip to MustangWeek, and I have been asked several times what was wrong with my brakes - that is, till they ride with me, lol.

I think you are on the right track... I recommend checking with artsperformance for the pads - he's the cheapest I've found.

I'll probably wind up swapping to Hps's up front to ride on after these wear out, and swap the + pads in and out for autox/track use.
 

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At this stage in the game I'm kind of a one pad guy. Our autox courses are NOT so intense that I need every ounce of stopping power in the world. An aggressive street pad would work for my current needs. Of course that could change if I ever get my car out on the ocal road course, but until then....
 

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Sounds to me like the HPS, Porterfield R4S, Mintex 1155 or Carbotech Bobcat should work just fine for you. I'm sure there are other options out there as well. As you've said, with your usage there's no need to step up to the next level of performance - the tradeoffs (noise, dust, rotor wear) just aren't worth the minor improvement in auto-x performance once a month IMO.
 

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Sounds good. I will look into some of those other options that have been mentioned in this thread.

In my previous post I meant to say that our local courses are NOT that intense and don't require ultimate stopping power or a pad that rides the edge between streetable and track only.
 

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FWIW, IME the Porterfields were a little bit noisy. I'd put them somewhere between the level of the HPS and the HP+.
 

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Anyone familiar with the PFC-Z's? They are available off the shelf locally.
I have heard TONS of good things about these pads, but never tried them myself. I'll be buying them for my Cobra setup here pretty soon, front and rear. Supposed to be priced well AND come with a warranty!
 

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I daily drive and autocross on HPS's and they've been great for the past year or so that I've had them. They make a less dust than the Performance Frictions that I previously had on the car, they bite good and hard when cold, and they have yet to let out a peep of noise when stopping on the street.
 

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Just get some HPS and call it a day.

The Carbotech AX6 (formerly called Bobcat) is a fantastic pad but will dust and squeak a little more than the HPS.
 

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PF Z's are terrible when cold. When I had them on my daily driver I would have to ride the brakes for a couple of blocks before I would get into traffic. They are the exact opposite for what you want in an A-X.
 

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the hp+ stop really well but at normal driving they squeal. if you can put up with a little bit of noise go with them. if you don't want noise go with the hps.
 
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