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I remember reading some conflicting info on the Ford blocks. Some guys have said that the SHP block is made from a different (softer) steel than the sportsman and iron eagle blocks. I seem to remember they said you could tell the difference when machining them. I'm just curious if anyone has any first hand info on that.
 

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They are supposed to be but proving this in the real world is not reality. I will say this, sometimes you can tell the difference when honing. Sometimes the shp is hard as **** when honing also. For the 99% crowd who are hobbyist making in the 1000hp area or so, it's a moot issue.
 

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They are supposed to be but proving this in the real world is not reality. I will say this, sometimes you can tell the difference when honing. Sometimes the shp is hard as **** when honing also. For the 99% crowd who are hobbyist making in the 1000hp area or so, it's a moot issue.
Thanks, It's been hard to find anything definitive. Would you rate the 9.5 shp higher than the typical 8.2 equivalent? I'd like to purchase a block around spring time and would like to keep my custom oil pan, which means I'll be looking at either a shp or sportsman. I don't foresee trying to make more than 1500 fwhp ever.
 

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is this block a good block for 800 too 1100 rw power https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-351W-Windsor-B-4-123-M-351C-DH-9-500-4-Bolt-Billet-Main-Iron-Engine-Block/174038175203?_trkparms=ispr=1&hash=item28857bcde3:g:1lEAAOSwYVVdhdX8&enc=AQAEAAACQBPxNw+Vj6nta7CKEs3N0qUec26gvMLUxcEyFdfrGpVBcPq2cLVge7Knpli+RpsQ1Eb+ErdjWbvd/r5PjyghN1dNosZwN0xCrCquq6vAMzh979Pgp+mG8LGB8kGfPu6OLb+47dg1dfQV9gIaFt/MhdJSGZFStvxaiCT0avNrymTTWgsUX0MYerCzunmUxOAjlFSzclgsiI2Chbd41nx0c8SFuuZDtce9sS3VPmq+QtNygp5rCEc5ZZ+jVobcIB79HXGK3qexayvlQf8XY/SsYq+I0vxuWNYnGDnXu8dZgyXKnLgOoibG5tyL6SccVajY1jihLZfSm2vm96XWvJP5gTW5Qbcb68f7nV5fZFWPvFYG770EIZSZD7TyB8iGWqo94x7FRN+0npDYp5KFViWR8l0xAwsg1y74c9UsLv8Vd8gfNyqdrXznVm8wtcIWx/gKXINBVFZS5JYynjcnvv+544/YaqtsIZEWFBGSCv0UeFE56GYdd4j115yRB6GRIajYius91y4H3HpOYFiK78XJrLgT8yzCf2+E9F+4LrOnk48v/4oneWoejZK4F3F3vhGmVXBjMG/a4/k7ft+WS19j0+rljM3MsSFpzEOk8vuLYeIbIq56XSyFffzq/R5ZkWLqH8swBX9FSYnL+BTkLtm5aX2P5WRDK+BJkOgftZ47sTVQmGxP7KvcfHLWEQTYasflC/vpfwh32KwR8f4Vhh8wAjR2aX0K6fMC5bqEEG3eIRZCy5S7WxEXm/SFGjiAfD1xgA==&checksum=174038175203400f6ce7c66d48d0ae47247edf9c9124&enc=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&checksum=174038175203400f6ce7c66d48d0ae47247edf9c9124
 

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I imagine it would be a similar case as with offshore cylinder heads, by the time you spend money in machining to get it "right" you would have been better off going with a Dart to start with.
 

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You'll spend about the same money to machine either block. That amount depends on how right you want it to be.
That is a very quotable comment. It sounds like something that should be made into a sign and displayed in every machine shop. You know, like the sign that says you can only have two out of these three options: Quality, Fast, Cheap. lol
 
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