I know some of you guys have done it so what the hell is it going to take to run with a stock '03 Cobra while staying naturally aspirated? Yes, you do sense a little '03 Cobra envy but I'm not ready not give up my '01.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but the 2003 will NOT BE NATURALLY ASPIRATED.Nino said:I know some of you guys have done it so what the hell is it going to take to run with a stock '03 Cobra while staying naturally aspirated? Yes, you do sense a little '03 Cobra envy but I'm not ready not give up my '01.
Joe, re-read Victor's post.... then think about it.RavenGT said:Someone correct me if I am wrong, but the 2003 will NOT BE NATURALLY ASPIRATED.
It comes with a blower, and last time I checked that doesn't qualify as NA. So you are comparing apples to oranges!
joe
John, I read Victor's post, and for once, I am not trying to be a smartass, I am merely pointing out that he is trying to run a NA vehicle against a blown application, not to mention, what poises itself to be the strongest factory car ever built by Ford. He needs to find the horsepower in some manner, before it even gets into the same ballpark as the 03 Cobra. And staying NA to compete against it, might prove itself extremely frustrating.John in Houston said:
Joe, re-read Victor's post.... then think about it.
Victor... a good driver, sticky tires and weight reduction would go a long way. Add your normal bolt ons too.
You have to find +/- 60 rwhp... either through horsepower, weight reduction or grip.
Good luck!
John.
Nothing personal, but will you refuse to race an '03 on the street because it has a blower and you dont - and that wouldnt be fair? Bottom line is they'll eventually be out there, and if you wanna stay on top, n/a, it can be done (atleast vs. a stock '03), it'll just take some nice gear/exhaust/bolt-ons/weight reduction/and most importantly, good driving. There are more than a few 110+ stock motor N/A DOHC's running around. I don't plan on getting walked by a stock blown '03 That is assuming they dont run much over 110mph! We'll see!RavenGT said:
John, I read Victor's post, and for once, I am not trying to be a smartass, I am merely pointing out that he is trying to run a NA vehicle against a blown application, not to mention, what poises itself to be the strongest factory car ever built by Ford. He needs to find the horsepower in some manner, before it even gets into the same ballpark as the 03 Cobra. And staying NA to compete against it, might prove itself extremely frustrating.
good luck though Victor!
joe
Nothing personal, but yes, I will refuse to race an '03 Cobra on the street. Take his ass to the track and I will run him. Thats what my GT is built for.32Vpwr said:Nothing personal, but will you refuse to race an '03 on the street because it has a blower and you dont - and that wouldnt be fair?
Take it easy!
josh
Cool attitude. I apologize for not recognizing you own a GT. My mistake - actually I knew it by looking at your name, but for some reason it didnt carry through in my post, brain freeze I guess. I'm not going to get into whether or not street racing is plausible, but the fact is, more than not you will eventually run across one on the street. If you have the will-power/discipline to not race one that is giving you a hassle, then more power to you. I dont know what your GT runs at the track, but a small shot of dope will take care of the '03 Cobra.RavenGT said:
Nothing personal, but yes, I will refuse to race an '03 Cobra on the street. Take his ass to the track and I will run him. Thats what my GT is built for.
Who cares about fair, and what the point of that comment? You missed my original point, so forget it, I give up. You Cobra owners argue it.
joe
And you know this how??? I'd only need about a 1.85 60' time to do that. Or are you just talking out of your ass?Fourcam281 said:
Nope, not going to happen.
LOL, slap some gears in there with no other changes and let's make a wager to see if you hit 12s. :lol: Sorry, been there and done that, ain't gonna happen. LOL, keep on benchracing. If nothing else, STFU, unless you've done it--keep the speculation to yourself.That is our goal. My 99 is stock with the exception of a K&N and drag radials and has run a 13.30 with a 2.06 60' time (hardly good). I would have gone 13.1x, but I screwed up a shift. At this point, gearing it alone would get me into the 12s
Well....I haven't done it in the cobra, but I have done my fair share of drag racing. I see no reason why the car will go slower with gears in it. If you can please explain it to me.Fourcam281 said:Take a poll see what you get. You aren't going to run mid 12s on the IRS with DRs (good luck with slicks) and only 4.10 gearing. Ron99's car went 12.55 with those gears and tires, however it was lightened, at a great track with great air and a great driver--not to mention his car was a factory freak.
LOL, slap some gears in there with no other changes and let's make a wager to see if you hit 12s. :lol: Sorry, been there and done that, ain't gonna happen. LOL, keep on benchracing. If nothing else, STFU, unless you've done it--keep the speculation to yourself.
I guess I didn't mention that I was running on nitto drag radials. I'm not claiming that I'd run 12s the first time out, but I think that it's entirely within the realm of possibility. I'm sure that there will be a learning curve with the new gears.Fourcam281 said:With different gearing you're going to have to relearn how to launch/shift the car, which I'm sure you knew being an experienced drag racer and all. You aren't going to cut any great short times with 4.10s, and although 4.10s let you use 4th gear in the 1/4, they force the shift too close to the line making it more of a hinderance than anything else. To fully exploit the advantages of lower gears that really work (4.30-4.56s) you'll need stickier meats. That's why.
Thanks for getting my back Bob . I know that they are not the best gear for drag racing, but my plans for the car are to road race and only occasionally drag race.Bob Cosby said:I have no doubt you can run 12's with the 4.10's. They are mostly certainly the WRONG gear for drag racing a DOHC Cobra, but that doesn't mean that you can't go quick with them.
You will run quicker with the 4.30's or 4.56's, but you can run 12's with practice using 4.10's.
Good luck ot you.