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So I haven't had a chance to work on the car the past couple weekends. The last time I was able to work on the car I realized I really needed to clean up my garage. So today I spent most of my time cleaning up and getting a storage cabinet for my garage. I getting some work benches over the next couple weeks so I should have my garage together.

I did get to work on the car so I decided to get the window installed on the driver side of the car. The passenger side took me a while to get it installed. So I figured I wouldn't get the driver side done today. But I used what I leaned installing the passenger side and the driver side went fast.





Now I have the manual windows installed. I still have some adjustments I need to make to get them working smooth but they are working. I have to make sure I get them all working good I'm going to put the Scott rod Fab door panels on and there not something you can just pull off.

Then I finished up the transmission tunnel. The last time I worked on the car I sealed everything up knowing I wouldn't get to work on it for 2 weeks.





Then drilled out the holes and added the rivets.



Not the most exciting stuff going on with the car. I'm hoping once I'm back in my house when the remodel is done I will be able to make more progress on the car. The next part is getting the remaining roll cage cleaned up and painted red. I plan on doing most of the interior in black with the cage red.
 

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Did some more work on the car decided start working no the wiring. I got a new head light harness for the car from Ron Francis its a nice harness happy with the quality. I got it all installed but I will have to do some work on the alternator end since I converted to a 95amp alternator a long time ago.



I also got the dash harness in so I can start wiring it up the head light and turn signal switches so I can start testing it all.



I started to get the metal frame that goes under the dash in so I can get it mounted and tie the harness to it.





I can already see the wiring is going to be a pain in the ass but I should get through it pretty quick. There's going to be allot of unused connectors under the dash since I don't plan on having a heater, air or stereo in the car so I might take out the ones I don't need.
 

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Made a quick stop by the house today. I ordered some rims for the car there XXR 531 in flat black 18x11. I took them over to the house really quick to get a look on how they would fit. I know there not the top of the list wheel but I like them and they will do for now. Plus they were on a labor day sale so I could pass it up. They fit better then I thought they would it looks like I will have to run a 1/4 inch spacer all they was around but they should work really good.

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Here's also some shots of the front and rear suspension on the car.









I guess with how much the wheels stick out its good thing I have these.



I won't get to work on the car this weekend but I will be back at it next weekend.
 

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I did get a chance to work on the car that much this weekend. I didn't have any work benches in my garage so I ordered some and used the short time I had this weekend working on getting my garage setup. I'm going to have more time next weekend so I wanted to get ready for that. I did get some parts for the interior last week that I can't wait to get installed. I got some Scott Rod Fab interior panels for the back half of the car. The SCCA CAM-T rules state I have to have finished looking interior. I decided to go with there metal panels in satin black.



I also picked up some manual side mirrors for the car.



I did get to have some fun on Sunday and take the mod car out for some runs at the autocross. It had been about a month since I ran it felt good to get behind the wheel again.

 

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I finally got a chance to get out and work on the car this weekend. I wanted to start getting some of the wring worked out so I can put the dash in the car. I also for some reason wanted to paint the metal dash frame before I put it in the car. I'm not sure if parts of it are going to be exposed since I won't have a stereo, heater or air in the car. The dash frame doesn't look perfect but it will do



The wiring didn't go so well or at least not as planned. I should start out by saying the dash harness in my car is one I bought off ebay. The original one in the car was all cut up by me when eliminated allot of the connector and wires I didn't need in the car. I found it would be to much work to put it back together. I found one out of a 1992 mustang which was perfect. It has the same part number as my original and it all looks good. There are no spliced or cut wires in it and all the connectors still have there clips. I feel confident that the harness is fine and is in good working order. The head light switch is the one that came with the car I never took it out I just left it in disconnected. The multifunction switch is new I got that from LMR since I could find my original.

I started by getting the switches connected and testing the head lights and blinkers. Here's a couple of shots of the fun I was having this weekend.





I got everything connected and went to turn on the head lights and got nothing. Which really sucked until I realized I hadn't connected or grounded the headlight harness. Once I got it connected and grounded the head lights worked but the amber marked lights didn't work at all. If I turned on the turn signals the inside maker lights would blink but not the outside ones. If I used the hazard switch still only the inside marker lights would blink. I messed with the multifunction switch and found the high beams worked fine but the windshield wiper would only work in the high setting and nowhere else. So I stared to trace the wires around and everything seems to be fine but what I really need to do is find a wiring diagram for the dash harness and figure out a way to start testing it. I ordered a new headlight switch since I damaged mine beyond repair while trying to see if something was faulty in it. I was going to post something up in the wiring forum to see if anyone had ideas of what might be going on with the car. I want to find the best way to test the multifunction switch and check the wiring harness. The part that sucks is I'm not going to get a chance to work on the car next weekend. I guess that will give me time to look up wiring diagrams and figure out a test procedure. If any has ideas please let me know. The one thing I didn't put back in the car was the computer not sure if that matters I didn't think it would since I wasn't starting the engine.

On a side note I had to get some wheel spacers for the car so I order some 3/4 inch hub centric ones thay are really nice. I also picked up a new front sway bar for the car. Not that I really need one yet but I had planned on ordering it any at some point so I just did it now.

 

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Glad to see some progress. If you need wiring diagrams for the 92/93 I can help you out. Mines a 93 and I have the mitchell, ford, and other versions that float around from time to time.
 

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Glad to see some progress.
I know its been slow going which I knew it was going to be at first. I'm remodeling my house right now and not living there at this time. Where hoping to move back in the beginning of next month so I will be able to work on the car when ever I want. I really want to have it back on the road in the first few months of next year or at least that's my hope.

If you need wiring diagrams for the 92/93 I can help you out. Mines a 93 and I have the mitchell, ford, and other versions that float around from time to time.
Thanks I could definitely use the dash harness diagram if you have it handy. I've done wiring before so I'm good with reading the diagrams and board schematics and what I don't get my father in law can figure it out. I just need to figure out a way to test it all out so I know for sure the harness is fine. I really don't feel like unwrapping it yet but I will if I have to plus it is something I can take with me and test at my temporary home.
 

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Here ya go. Let me know if you need something else.
Wow thanks for posting that for me. That is exactly what I'm looking for now its time to look it over and figure it out.
 

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Not a problem! You might not live next door but you are a fox/mustang guy, so I'm always down to help out with the proverbial "cup of sugar/wiring diagram" lol. Feel free to ask for others if you need em!
 

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Sweet build thread! I'm especially interested in seeing the car with the fenders installed.

Going to be tearing my GT down soon enough to give it a fresh coat of paint and tidy everything up so i'll be following along on your build.

Keep it up!!
 

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Sweet build thread! I'm especially interested in seeing the car with the fenders installed.
Thanks man its moving kind of slow right now but it should pick up in the next month. The fenders are going to take a lot of work with the forward offset on the control arms, kmember and the 315 tires. One of the main reasons I went with the tiger flares is I could move them forward on the fender to center them on the tire. I just need to get the wiring and interior in then I'm starting on the body and suspension. The last part is the motor and exhaust.
 

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Not a problem! You might not live next door but you are a fox/mustang guy, so I'm always down to help out with the proverbial "cup of sugar/wiring diagram" lol. Feel free to ask for others if you need em!
I need another cup of sugar/wiring diagram. Do you happen to have the wiring diagram for the rear harness that controls the tail lights?

I went to the house last night before meeting up with some friends so I did some looking around for a bit. I looked everywhere for maybe a ground I missed or some kind of clue and came up empty handed. I was a pretty short visit so I didn't get to do much. So now I'm just figuring how I'm going to start tracing all stuff to get to the bottom of the problem.
 

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I need another cup of sugar/wiring diagram. Do you happen to have the wiring diagram for the rear harness that controls the tail lights?

I went to the house last night before meeting up with some friends so I did some looking around for a bit. I looked everywhere for maybe a ground I missed or some kind of clue and came up empty handed. I was a pretty short visit so I didn't get to do much. So now I'm just figuring how I'm going to start tracing all stuff to get to the bottom of the problem.
Here ya go buddy! See attached.
 

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I think might know what is going on with my wiring. I haven't tested it yet but I think the problem is how I have the battery ground. When the car was only on the street the battery was in the stock position with the factory connections. When I turned it into a race car I moved the battery to behind the passenger seat which is where I plan to keep it. When i moved the battery I used 1/0 welding cable and ran it to the engine block and that was it. I never ran a ground from the battery terminal to the chassis. The only connection I have that goes to the chassis is the grounding strap on the back of the motor. After doing allot research there appears to be two ways of going about it. You can run the ground from the battery to the engine block then run another ground from the battery to the chassis. The other way I have seen is running the ground from the battery terminal using a 1/0 cable to the chassis then from the block to the chassis using another 1/0 cable connection. I'm going to get some time on Sunday to test it out. I have some ground wire so I'm going to keep my connection to the block from the battery and just add a chassis ground from the battery to see if that helps.
 

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I made good progress on the car today. I started out adding a ground from the battery to the chassis but that didn't solve my problem. So I took my meter and the diagrams thenemesis gave me and started going through the dash and headlight harness. After a few hours of tracing lines to figure out what is going on I found this problem. It turns out the Ron Francis headlight harness I got was pinned out wrong on two of the wires.

This is the connection from the dash harness to the headlight harness. Note how the blue and the brown wires are reversed on the headlight harness.



Here's the factory harness for reference.



So after I swapped the wires in the headlight harness the running lights started working. So I can check that off the list. I'm still having the issue with the wipers only working on the high setting. I started going over that when I ran out of time.

Here's a picture of the fun I was having today.



I figure for my next trip I'm going to start cleaning up the harness and start getting the dash in the car. Now I'm going to start pushing to get the interior done so I can start working on the motor and suspension.

The one thing I did run into when going through the rear hatch harness I thought I hadn't messed with the harness but I'm finding I removed the connector for the side airbag sensor that goes right by the driver side B pillar. I'm not sure if that is part of the rear harness or if its separate. The airbag system on the car has been a big debate for me. I've been debating if I'm going to put it back in the car. I have all the sensors and parts need to make it happen but I really don't want to give up my Momo steering wheel. I know smog wise they don't care about it but if I had to have a safety inspection then I would have to install it. So now I need to figure out if I need to find a harness with the connector I need and replace the harness in my car or find the connector and add it to my harness. I have to open the rear harness more but I think the wires are still in place.
 

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Great work. Glad the diagrams helped out some.

I would vote no on the airbag system. My car is relatively intact on the system so I maintained it.. but lets be real. The airbags in these cars are not very likely to deploy. The agents in the bag are dried up and probably DOA. Mine is all there and "works" but meh.. I wouldn't waste my time installing it if it was already out. A good harness belt (maybe a three point?) would suffice for proper safety since the reeled OEM belts are supposed to be paired with an airbag.
 

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Great work. Glad the diagrams helped out some.
They were a big help thanks again.

I would vote no on the airbag system. My car is relatively intact on the system so I maintained it.. but lets be real. The airbags in these cars are not very likely to deploy. The agents in the bag are dried up and probably DOA. Mine is all there and "works" but meh.. I wouldn't waste my time installing it if it was already out. A good harness belt (maybe a three point?) would suffice for proper safety since the reeled OEM belts are supposed to be paired with an airbag.
I'm leaning towards not putting them in unless I can't get the car registered and back on the street without them. I look at it like this the car isn't going to be driven everyday mainly to and from autocross and open track events. Since I wear a full face helmet and neck restraint the airbag becomes more of a problem then helping. Also lets face it these are first gen airbags not the same ones in modern cars. I have all the parts I need to get them working if i have to go that route. I will have to check about the seat belts I think I heard something about that but I'm not sure. I see on LMR they have belts for 87-89 and 90-93 so I'm guessing there different.
 

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Yep. The reel is designed for the airbag or it's not. I think it has to do with the amount of force and how much it locks. If I delete the airbag stuff out of the car I'd certainly make the jump to non-air bag belts. I've seen too many folks get hurt with the wrong belts in the wrong application.
 
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