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post #1 of 13 Old 08-24-2007, 11:09 AM Thread Starter
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Hellion recommendations

I'm SERIOUSLY considering a Hellion 76mm kit for my 96 Cobra. My question is in regards to fuel system. My original thoughts were for 60lb injectors and a 255lph pump with a SCT2800 or a Lightning MAF. But due to boost/power levels I'm wanting some have said the 255 and the Lightning or SCT2800 won't be enough. I'm wanting to run around 18 psi. Any help/opinions would be greatly appreciated
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You're looking at pretty much the same setup I have. I've got a 76mm Hellion kit on a '98 Cobra motor. The SCT BA2800 should work fine with what you're wanting. If you ever do peg out the MAF then you can always add a Diablo MAFia onto it. The stock Lightning meter will not be enough for you. Actually, I have the BA2400 and ended up having to add the MAFia with it. The 255 fuel pump will not cut it for what you want. There are several options you have for fuel. You can get a fuel tank and dual pumps from an '03-04 Cobra, you can use dual Walbro 255 lph pumps if you run new fuel lines, Aeromotive makes a complete kit that comes with their A1000 pump, fuel lines and everything you'll need. Also, PLEASE don't tell me that you're wanting to do this with a stock motor! That would be disasterous!

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No the motor is out of car right now ready for new guts. Disasterous choices is how I acquired the car. Bought it with a locked motor. So it's out and I'm about to order new internals from MMR today or tomorrow. So I'll be ok with the SCT2800 and the 60lb'rs then? So only concern would be the pump assembly correct

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You got it! I'm running a Weldon 2025 pump which is probably a little overkill but I'd rather have too much than not enough. They're loud and they're expensive but they get the job done without worry. I wouldn't recommend one for a street car without using a fuel pump controller (Weldon Dial a Flow) but they're great for a track only car.
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I'm needing a street pump, something I can hop in a drive everyday if I'd like to

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Yea 60's will be fine, along with the 2800 SCT. I think its actually the 3000.

Def. NO on that 255.

Im running that Hellion kit... car is almost finished anyways.
My fuel consists of a Weldon 2015 w/ a dial-a-flow for street use. Im also using 83lb inj. because of nitrous.

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No the motor is out of car right now ready for new guts. Disasterous choices is how I acquired the car. Bought it with a locked motor. So it's out and I'm about to order new internals from MMR today or tomorrow. So I'll be ok with the SCT2800 and the 60lb'rs then? So only concern would be the pump assembly correct
You need to get an aftermarket block dude. A 76MM will make WAY too much power for a stock block no matter how well its prepped. It will be laggier than any of the 60-70 mm would at the power level you will be able to utilize it at. If you want to haul ass you need to get a Boss block or better.

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if its a built shortblock that Teksid block itself will take a 76mm like a champ!!

Im using the same turbo kit with nitrous on an 03 WAP block and im not worried.

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Duh Im an idiot. I didnt read well and thought he posted it was a 95. The Mod block is good to goo.

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I may be switching to the hellion kit in the near future.....Need to switch over to return style though....this returnless stuff is crap....

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check into these fuel systems or the factory '03-04 Cobra set-up

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How much trouble and money would it be to adapt the 03-04 Tank with twin GT pumps to my 96 Cobra with return style. Or should I just look into other options(aeromotive etc)?For instance what else would I have to buy to build a system around a Aeromotive A1000 pump. I would like a fuel system capable of 750-800hp

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The website mentioned above (Glenns Performance) is an excellent place to look to get an idea of what all is needed. I'm running their "sleeper" fuel tank, -10 line to an aeromotive filter thats connected to a Weldon 2025 w/ another filter just past the pump, -10 fuel line to a Y block in the engine bay, -8 lines from Y block to UPR fuel rails, -6 lines from fuel rails to Aeromotive regulator and -6 return line. I'm also using the push-lock line that Glenn sales with his kits. I've been running this for about a year with no problems yet. I chose this route over the twin pumps because I have heard of a lot of people that would unknowingly have one pump go bad and the car would go very lean under boost and we all know what happens when you go very lean under boost!

Arcangl- How much does the dial a flow quiten down your fuel pump? I've been considering one but I'd like to know before I drop that kind of cash on one. I don't drive my car on the street much and when I do it is only short trips so I'm not concerned about the pump overheating, just the noise.
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