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post #1 of 46 Old 02-27-2007, 02:37 PM Thread Starter
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Hitting the track friday w/ new combo...

well i know its only tuesday and all .... but im already hyped up to see what this thing can do .

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on the trans brake the car goes to 4800rpm and 9psi

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the car has been tuned via a wideband but i dont know what kind of power it makes .

and raceweight with me in the car should be 3200lbs .

i told myself i would be happy with 11.50's at a 120 mph trap .

are these possible ?

p.s the car went 12.80 at 111 n/a on street tires


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good luck! i can't wait until i get to break some stuff

( with a good tune ) i think your times are possible

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Sounds like you should hit your numbers. What track in MD?
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MIR ..... a few guys are renting it weather permittting

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i would expect more out of the car.

my combo is very similar and i'm expecting 10.8's at 125 or so. if i had your car and a mild tune i wouldn't be happy with anything less than 11.0's.

i think you will be very happy if the tires hook.

how much timing and air fuel?

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i would expect more out of the car.

my combo is very similar and i'm expecting 10.8's at 125 or so. if i had your car and a mild tune i wouldn't be happy with anything less than 11.0's.

i think you will be very happy if the tires hook.

how much timing and air fuel?
timing is added via the chip .... its an sct 3 program chip ..... 1...is base tube
2. more agressive pump gas 3....is race gas only ...

a/f is 11.8

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cool, let us know what happens.

are you running the c&l? also what is your pump and fuel line setup?

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cool, let us know what happens.

are you running the c&l? also what is your pump and fuel line setup?

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I think you have to run an SCT meter to run the SCT chip...I might be wrong though...
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I think you have to run an SCT meter to run the SCT chip...I might be wrong though...
You're wrong.


You should definitely go faster than that, depending on conditions and elevation at the track I see a low 11 at that boost level. I know you're gonna get greedy and up the boost when you see how close to the 10s you come!!!
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You're wrong.


You should definitely go faster than that, depending on conditions and elevation at the track I see a low 11 at that boost level. I know you're gonna get greedy and up the boost when you see how close to the 10s you come!!!
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don't get to greedy with a stock block

i have to agree with stang seller ( just hope that the tune is good )

save yourself some money and have someone check (mustang dyno)

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i would love to get the car on a dyno ..... just to see what i need to shift at ..... n/a it loved to see 6k rpms .... now i just set the shift lite to 5500rpms .... ill have to play with shift points tommrow.

im sure the car wouldnt put any killer numbers on the dyno with the c4 and converter but i would assume it make upwards of 400rwhp or so.

and yeap im still using the c&l set up with the kit .... no problems at all in my case ..... i wouldnt mind going with the sct or lightning set up in the future ..... but im finishing up other areas of the vehicle now .

i should have some pics and videos for you tommrow ..... hopefully you guys can help me post em ....

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p.s ...... in this time of the year its not un common to see track d/a below sea level .... so im crossing my fingers for that one haha

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cool, let us know what happens.

are you running the c&l? also what is your pump and fuel line setup?

tks

im running the 255 pump and an aeromotive regulator ...... everything else being stock ....

the fuel pressure is good thought .... via a cowl mounted gauge

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The converter is a bit loose for your setup, but I don't think you're making enough power to blow through it.

If I were you, I'd have the converter tightened up as much as possible (at least another 1,000rpms) so you can take advantage of the lower end power a little more.

Outside of that, the car oughta stroll.
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The converter is a bit loose for your setup, but I don't think you're making enough power to blow through it.

If I were you, I'd have the converter tightened up as much as possible (at least another 1,000rpms) so you can take advantage of the lower end power a little more.

Outside of that, the car oughta stroll.

i was almost stunned when i saw the converter go that high on the brake ..... on my borthers n/a set up it would go to 3500rpm....

and in my car it only footbrakes to like 2000rpms ...kinda weird ....

at least on the street it doesnt seem to be blowing through the converter ....but if the issue arrises i will have it tightened

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i told myself i would be happy with 11.50's at a 120 mph trap .

are these possible ?

p.s the car went 12.80 at 111 n/a on street tires
you will be happy!!! you should get the extra 9mph your looking for from 9psi.

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well todays track rental got cancelled ..... so im either going to have to wait untill saturday or sunday ..... in which case if im faster than 11.50 ima get booted ...... i think ill make some 1/8 mile passes to get an idea ....then let 2 rip .

next mod will prob be a cage

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MD weather hates Fridays and Wednesdays. I am going to try to make it up to cecil next Friday.
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well results are in and im not let down yet not excited .

11.57 at 118
7.33 @94mph
w/ a 1.62 60ft.....

good news is my tuner thinks he can pull around 4 tenths outta a more agressive tune...... and going down the track boost looked to be around 8psi

nextg on the list .... 12psi , meth injection with that more agressive tune .... im going to start chopping this et down little by little every time .

and i think theres some left in the 60ft too ....

let me know what you guys think ?

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So in the end, they had the track open on Friday?
Seems like that is about where it should be. More boost and more agressive tune and you will be in the 10s.
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So in the end, they had the track open on Friday?
Seems like that is about where it should be. More boost and more agressive tune and you will be in the 10s.
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yeap i lucked out big time ...... as of 8p.m thursday night it had been cancelled ..... then i got a text message at 3.a.m thursday morning saying it was off .

but then i got another call at 9am friday morning saying it was on.....the resy of the day was sunny !!

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Only 8psi. It should rock with 12+ amd meth.
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Only 8psi. It should rock with 12+ amd meth.
thats what i want to hear ..... i have a 9psi spring in the wastegate but it looked to be making 8 , i am going to get a manual boost controller this week .... and get a more agressive tune on 12psi .... then go from there .

if my mph doesnt pick up some i might look into tightening the converter , but it doesnt seem to be slipping .

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How did you manage to get to a track in march? lol ours are closed until atleast late april lol lol

How can you NOT be excited?? you still havent ran it at 12psi, Thats got to excite ya a little, lol lol

your only .2 from where you wanted to be. IF you fell there is a little left in the 60 ft that might be where its at. Get the .4 from the tune and with a better 60 youll be low 11's not to mention 4 more psi

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How did you manage to get to a track in march? lol ours are closed until atleast late april lol lol

How can you NOT be excited?? you still havent ran it at 12psi, Thats got to excite ya a little, lol lol

your only .2 from where you wanted to be. IF you fell there is a little left in the 60 ft that might be where its at. Get the .4 from the tune and with a better 60 youll be low 11's not to mention 4 more psi
in MD the tracks open the beggining of march ...... this week ima line up a manual boost controller , and re-tune and shoot for going out sunday .

so we shall see what happens !

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in MD the tracks open the beggining of march ...... this week ima line up a manual boost controller , and re-tune and shoot for going out sunday .

so we shall see what happens !
Very cool, nice times.

I'll get out to the tracks in the next few weeks.
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Very cool, nice times.

I'll get out to the tracks in the next few weeks.

let me know if your comming to mir ...... is capitol running now ? .... they have the 11.99 rule on cages thought right ?

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let me know if your comming to mir ...... is capitol running now ? .... they have the 11.99 rule on cages thought right ?
They started running capitol on Sunday. I'll probably take the car there for its first time out with the new motor since it is so close to where I live. I'm not sure about the 11.99 rule.

There is a track rental at MIR on 4/6 that I am scheduled to go to. ATI is hosting it. You might want to look into it since there are supposed to be a number of turbo mustangs there.
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nice on the times!!! im putting together a turbo set up as well...where did you go to get it tuned? ...i think the cage rule is 11.49 at capitol 11.99 for a fire jacket.
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nice on the times!!! im putting together a turbo set up as well...where did you go to get it tuned? ...i think the cage rule is 11.49 at capitol 11.99 for a fire jacket.
where are you located in MD ..... you will love the turbo....

im still unsure if i want to go ahead and up the boost and get agressive with the tune .... or make some small but effective changes to my engine ..... or i could do suspension ....or weight reduction ahhhh it never ends

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where are you located in MD ..... you will love the turbo....

im still unsure if i want to go ahead and up the boost and get agressive with the tune .... or make some small but effective changes to my engine ..... or i could do suspension ....or weight reduction ahhhh it never ends
im in the eldersburg/sykesville area, what about you? im having the same dilemma you are ...the wastegate i have has .6 bar 8.7psi spring in it, im thinking of just going right to 11 or 12psi. and yes it never ends!!!
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i wish mine was done

i just need an intake and a stronger rear end and i can get this thing going...

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im in the eldersburg/sykesville area, what about you? im having the same dilemma you are ...the wastegate i have has .6 bar 8.7psi spring in it, im thinking of just going right to 11 or 12psi. and yes it never ends!!!
im in st marys county only 15miles or so from MIR ..... i see you run the crower 15511 cam ....are you running 1.6 or 1.7 rockers ....im really considering going to 1.7's just as an experiment .

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how much timing are you running? seems like your car is falling off on the topend. what about shift points?

there is a torque converter slip calculator somewhere on the internet that can give you an idea how much it's slipping. you need mph, tire size, trap speed, etc...

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how much timing are you running? seems like your car is falling off on the topend. what about shift points?

there is a torque converter slip calculator somewhere on the internet that can give you an idea how much it's slipping. you need mph, tire size, trap speed, etc...
timing is 10* base with spout in ..... i changed shiftpoints from 5200-5800 and didnt really see much of a change ...kind of weird .

i agree i would have thought the car would mph 3-5 more .... it could be in the tune , it could be converter slipping .... lol so many things .

im going to get a dyno session set up within a couple weeks ....up the boost to 12psi and get a re-tune.

im going to go back to the track saturday or sunday ill post back with more results .

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