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post #1 of 25 Old 11-26-2006, 06:00 PM Thread Starter
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Any experience with HP SN95 turbo kits?

I came across a new kit for sale ready to bolt on but not sure what I'm getting into. The headers are 1 3/4 (what I need for my AFR 205s), 38mm wastegate, the crossover size is 2.5" and downpipe 3.5". The coldside is 3" tubing to a 3-row intercooler 25" x 14" x 3½". And the bypass valve is the small plastic bosch that will need to be upgraded but the tubing fitting that holds this bypass valve seems rather small to hold anything bigger.

The turbo is only a 60mm Hybrid that will also need to be upgraded.

Does anyone have any personal experience with this kit? Hows the fit and quality?

My goal is 700-900rwhp

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By the way I won't be running a smog pump and A/C, so I'm not concerned with fitting issues in those areas. Also the fender well is all cut to hell already so no biggie there.

Any thoughts?

I wish I could find someone with first hand experience with these kits on a SN95

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Is it an HP kit? It uses one or two of the bosch bovs? In general, people have been really happy with their kits-once they got them. The waiting after paying has been something people don't care for. In your case, you don't have to wait. Its not a fox kit that you want to put on an sn95?
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I agree, most people are happy with them once they actually get them. Of course that can be said for most turbo kits out there, only one company comes to mind that had almost always complaints. I disagree with the 1 3/4 being needed for your heads and simply because I have been down that road due to my TWR heads that need a 1 3/4 pipe to cover the entire exhaust port. I kept thinking I had to have 1 3/4 headers for that but found out after talking to a couple of places who build turbo headers/kits and have done so for many, many years that it was not true just needed flanges opened up some to prevent exhaust leaks and couple of them even told me that would be more for a peace of mind need than anything else.

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It's an HP kit for SN95 and it uses one bosch (yes I think you're right is being used as a BOV and not bypass valve)

I agree about the 1 3/4 and thought about just using 1 5/8 headers to save cost. However the 1 5/8 exhaust gaskets on the AFR 205 exhaust ports is far from matching. And this is the reasson why I prefer to go with a bigger headers because I don't want any restrictions coming out of exhaust or grind the crap out of the flanges.

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Snipe656,

what do you think about the intercooler for my hp goals?
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Why would you be using exhaust gaskets? You should just be using copper RTV regardless of the size of your header tubes. I believe some others have proven that intercooler to be capable of those power goals.

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copper RTV ? really? why.....

do gaskets just blow or leak?
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Yeah, gaskets tend to just not last on these cars with turbo kits but the copper RTV works like a champ for damn near everyone.

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Yup on the rtv

Get with Blackmagic on tm.com he had the 1st hp kit for a sn95..local az guy, his car runs good high 10s on a 306ci stock block


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Check out B&G turbo.

http://bgturbokits.com/store/index.p...roducts_id=197

I'm installing this kit right now
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Yeah, gaskets tend to just not last on these cars with turbo kits but the copper RTV works like a champ for damn near everyone.
I thought of using the copper exhaust gaskets with a dab of RTV on my B&G kit.....
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I thought of using the copper exhaust gaskets with a dab of RTV on my B&G kit.....
People do this as well but if you look around you will find more times than not people just run copper RTV and nothing else. Those people running just copper RTV almost never have issues and of the ones that have issues it usually boils down to the header flange not be true and needing to be milled.

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Check out B&G turbo.

http://bgturbokits.com/store/index.p...roducts_id=197

I'm installing this kit right now

how much did you pay with the turbo (what kind) and everything else?
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BG is going to quit making SN95 kits in the near future. I think the only way to get SN95 kits from them at that point will be a one-off order basis and it is going to cause the price to go up. There is a post on turbomustangs.com about this in the turbo kit review section on there.

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Yeah I know and I'm not interested in their SN95 base kit because of the 1 5/8 headers.

HP, PTK and other companies use the 1 3/4 headers in their base kits.
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What other companies do 1 3/4 in their base kit? I still think that should not be a requirement on your part but I do understand your reasoning on it. I personally would never buy a PTK or HP kit unless it was from someone who already had it in hand.

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My previous total performance kit had 1 3/4 headers and can't remember the other companies. I could try to use the 1 5/8 headers as everyone claims they can easily support up to 1000hp, but the problem they are too small for the AFR 205 exhaust ports. And I already mocked up the 1 5/8 exhaust gaskets to the AFR 205 exhaust ports and it needs alot grinding.


The HP kit is good to go and ready to be shipped from a corral memeber who doesn't want to hack up his cobra. He realized it needs some cutting to the fender and others area to make it fit right. My car is all hacked upalready so I don't care. And well I have no smog equipment or any of that heavy stuff so hopefully this kit is worth the money (buying for $3000 and it's brand new).
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The Total Performance kit used 1 3/4 because it was a knock off of the Axis kit and it is said the first PTK kits were lose copies of the Axis kit and hell the Cartech Outlaw SN95 kit is the Axis kit, one of those odd ball turbo companie circles I guess. As I said before you do not need bigger than 1 5/8 because of those ports, I have been down this road via my TWR heads and found out after a lot of calls and homework. 1 5/8 headers are good for a lot more than 1000hp so they are right in saying easily.

But all of that is pointless because you are looking at a "used" kit which is the way to go no matter what.

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I understand 1 5/8 are capable of 1000HP

But why do people keep saying is okay to use a smaller header than the head exhaust port? how does that not affect exhaust flow?
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It was explained to me a couple years ago so I have forgotten the specifics. From what I remember it had something to do with I think increasing the velocity of the air so that it actually helped spin up the turbo quicker. I might be confusing it with something else though because it was a long time ago. It is one of those things where people who do this for a living and have been for a LOT longer than most turbo kit companies have been in business, took the time to explain to me my flawed thinking in that I needed 1 3/4 headers so I simply committed to memory I was wrong on that and I can use this more readily available option but did not bother to commit the specifics to my memory.

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if that's the case then I'd rather install some sorta of blocking plate on the turbo mount
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It is not like it is a huge issue either route, my only point was that 1 5/8 not only will work but it will not hurt anything at all. But since you have found a deal on a used kit with 1 3/4 headers it is not like that feature should be a drawback to deciding to buy it.

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I understand thanks for the info.
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The quality is awesome, the customer service sucks huge. They never call you back, and you stay on hold forever. Check my other thread ongoing in this forum, I am still waiting for the turbo which is supposed to be dropshipped from holset, and waiting for the injectors that they forgot to package in the kit.

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