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Arrow Best Turbo Kit for Fox?????

Starting to look for a kit for my driver fox body. I know there are alot kits out there so I'm in need of any feedback you guys/gals have. It's street driven on a regular basis so I'm looking for reliability and fitment. Here we go: 306 stock block w/girdle, TW heads, TFS stage 1 cam, TFS street intake. I'm leaning towards Hellion or HP's kit with a 67mm. Thanks for the input!....

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b&g on mine and fits great, I have the tfs track heat top end kit with the tfs stage 2 cam, its not runnin yet.
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I have the hellion kit on my 89 and absolutely love it no fitment problems and they shipped out the day after I ordered it. Kick ass tech dept. too
Also layed down 463 horse to the tire with 12 lbs of boost
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+2 for hellion

My friend got his kit in a week and on a completely stock 200k mile motor (TB to oilpan) layed down 405hp/443tq. I can't remember if it was 8 or 10 lbs of boost.

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I've heard nothing but good things about the Hellion kits. I'm just worried that the stainless pipes will crack. Anybody have any feedback on that?...I know stainless is better but I also heard that they crack due to the heat produced. Thanks for the input so far!
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I'm in the process of saving for the Hellion kit. Should be mine by January. I'm not to worried about the heat, the hot side tubing will be Jet-Hot coated inside and out. 10psi, TFS heads, intake, custom cam, 306, hoping for 500rwhp

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i would order from b&g turbo and save yourself some serious dough, thats what i did

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The B&G set up looks pretty nice. Never heard of them until now....
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alot of guys are running the b&g kits. especially on turbomustangs.com.
its a good kit, and will save you some money. its a great kit. also, b&g have a GREAT repor with thier customers.
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And the difference between Helion and B&G would be....? Quality?
If so why cheap out?
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You aren't going to find any quality problems with B&G, the biggest difference is that Brian's business is small, with low overhead, and no advertising to cover....he sells his kits via word of mouth. Hellion on the other hand, while being a good company, has extra expenses to cover with the price of their kit.

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b&g's customer service and product quality is second to none!!!
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i agree on the pony down too. i honestly have never EVER heard one bad thing about b&g.
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B&G kit here also......Does yours need to be smog legal?? If so, that limits your options greatly.....
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B&G kit here also......Does yours need to be smog legal?? If so, that limits your options greatly.....
No, I don't have to worry about being smog legal. So far it seems B&G is the one to go with. All the feedback is great, I thank everyone who has given feedback! I'll look into the Ponydown stuff. I'm still curious about the mild steel versus stainless debate. Thanks again everyone....
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B&G here

no problems, drive it pretty regularly

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B&G here

no problems, drive it pretty regularly

458hp/431tq at 12 psi, stock bottom end, TFS heads, E cam, Performer RPM, C4 tranny
Thats similar to what I was considering. Which turbo head unit do you have?
What mods have you done to the C4?
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Thats similar to what I was considering. Which turbo head unit do you have?
What mods have you done to the C4?
Yeah, what he said...
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It's funny, in a lot of ways Mild steel is better than stainless. It doesn't carry that bling factor but it's more forgiving. Stainless has to be of a high quality and really put together well to hold up in turbo applications.

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I am very happy with my HP kit.

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If you're going to buy a kit, I'd recommend B&G. I've seen B&G's communication first-hand, and it's awesome.

In some ways, your kit will be designed specifically to your car, as far as turbo and wastegate placement, etc. They have excellent correspondence time, and when you get the kit, it bolts on, and you go.

www.bgturbokits.com
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I just put on my stage 3 HP kit.The fit was great, if you can wait for it. Also cheaper then the Hellion kit. when I talked to hellion I would have had to wait for the turbo, I guess they just keep the base turbo in stock and not the optional ones. If you order from someone reputable you won't go wrong.

Hellion, HP or proturbokits they are all good
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This kit is about $600 cheaper than the B&G or Ponydown single kits. Anyone use this kit? Opinions?
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I just put on my stage 3 HP kit.The fit was great, if you can wait for it. Also cheaper then the Hellion kit. when I talked to hellion I would have had to wait for the turbo, I guess they just keep the base turbo in stock and not the optional ones. If you order from someone reputable you won't go wrong.

Hellion, HP or proturbokits they are all good
You gotta be careful when you tell someone that certain places are good to buy from.....You might have had a good experience, but how many people out of 100 had the same experience? I've heard alot of bad stuff about PTK and HP.......My buddy has a PTK on his '91 GT and had alot of problems with them.....He's not the only one....Haven't heard of any major problems with Hellion....That kit just cost way too much....I'll be damn if I give $5K for a kit that is a log style and comes standard with only a 62mm turbo....
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This kit is about $600 cheaper than the B&G or Ponydown single kits. Anyone use this kit? Opinions?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Do not buy that kit......That thing is junk....There's people on turbomustangs that have bought that kit and can't even get it put together cause the v-bands don't line up or don't fit right and can't find the right sized v-bands to fit it......
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Do not buy that kit......That thing is junk....There's people on turbomustangs that have bought that kit and can't even get it put together cause the v-bands don't line up or don't fit right and can't find the right sized v-bands to fit it......


haha never listen to someone that hasnt had first hand exprience. blah blah blah is all i here, its mostly hearsay. i wouldnt call something on a stock bottom end thats going [email protected] junk now would you? it looks just as good as any other kit out there. the fitment was great, all i have is the hotside, have my own coldside b/c i am running blow thru. then someone else is going to flame on here about its a on center housing, well who cares are you out to make 1500whp out of the kit? there are alot of people on tm.com that have this hotside and havent said anything b/c of all the b&g butt kissers on there.

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haha never listen to someone that hasnt had first hand exprience. blah blah blah is all i here, its mostly hearsay. i wouldnt call something on a stock bottom end thats going [email protected] junk now would you? it looks just as good as any other kit out there. the fitment was great, all i have is the hotside, have my own coldside b/c i am running blow thru. then someone else is going to flame on here about its a on center housing, well who cares are you out to make 1500whp out of the kit? there are alot of people on tm.com that have this hotside and havent said anything b/c of all the b&g butt kissers on there.
I was reading quite a bit on TM and I'm trying to figure out if all the negativity is because the kit is bad, or because they are trying to protect two of the site sponsors (B&G and Ponydown).
I agree, that some of the most vocal people are ones that don't even own the kit.
So Jon, you bought the turbo and hotside from Treadstone?
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I personally know a guy with the treadstone kit, everything seemed good until two days after he had everything bolted up. He was driving down the road (not even under boost) when the turbo flange just came right off of the header, and then when taking the header off, 3 out of 4 of the primaries came off the other flange. He had a buddy weld everything back up, and aside from turbo shaft eventually breaking in two, it's been ok.....
Treadstone wouldn't even warranty the header, let alone the turbo though,,,,

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I was reading quite a bit on TM and I'm trying to figure out if all the negativity is because the kit is bad, or because they are trying to protect two of the site sponsors (B&G and Ponydown).
I agree, that some of the most vocal people are ones that don't even own the kit.
So Jon, you bought the turbo and hotside from Treadstone?
yes i have the hotside, i think the people bad mouthing the treadstone kit are mostly the ones that have no first hand dealings with them. i have personally never read someone post that has one of the kits say anything negative about them. you pay for what you get in the long run, might be true but i am willing to take that chance and had very good luck so far!!!

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Just get what kit your happy with that you can afford and see what all is included in each comany's kit.

My kit has a 76mm turbo, billet blow off, electric fan and I deleted the injectors and pump. was 4900. You can get the stage 1 complete for 4495.

I found that some of the cheaper kits didn't include fuel system pieces. I called Hellion and talked to some one, he couldn't tell me the size of the primaries on the headers. PTK was 500 more then HP and I went with HP. Everything is ceramic coated in and out and it fit great, I just had to sand the coating off of the y pipe so the pipes could slide together, everything else was gravy.

I am not saying buy HP, I called and talked to several companies and asked a lot of questions. Wanted to see what they knew and how they were talking to a customer.
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Another B&G butt kisser here!

I can only speak for the header quality...and customer service, both which were second to none.

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