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New turbo kit dyno'd

A buddy of mine just dyno'd his car at Powertrain Dynamics in California. The car is '93 Cobra with the new HP Performance street kit, out of the box Edelbrock Performer heads, Cobra intake (lower matched to Edelbrock runners) and a B-303 cam. The short block is stock with the exception of ARP bolts, stock displacement, crank, rods, etc.

On a run with ~20psi of boost, they had to let off at 4500rpms as the boost was climbing a little too high. The car still put down

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The torque had peaked at 4100rpms but the horsepower was still climbing!! These are actual numbers at sea level, no correction factoring.

They turned the boost down to a more street-friendly level and it peaked at 15psi but was bleeding down to 13psi (need a different boost controller) and the car made

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Again, this is on the stock bottom end (with ARPs), the car has stock electronics with a C&L MAF, 42lb injectors and a 1:1 regulator. The turbo is the stock 60mm that comes base with their kit. Tranny is a World Class T-5 with a SPEC Stage III clutch, tires are 28x10.5 ET Drags with 3.73 gears. The power curves are as flat as Kansas too, hehe.

Richard Holdener drove it down the street and after a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear burn he decided to take it easy for fear of his whitie tighties, lol.

Just some info in case anyone was curious on that HP Performance kit that has been in MM&FF lately. I gotta get me one of these babies.


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YIkes! HP Performance have a website?

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Workin on it, so far just a pics page with a couple customer cars. They're a very new company.

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hmm

is it one of these? http://www.hp-performance.com/index2.htm# or www.hpracing.com ? when has it been in the MM&FF?

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HP Turbo Kit

Here's some more info. on the kit from another string. No, those sites aren't the ones. I'll try to get more info. from the guy putting the site up. I hear he only has pics on it right now and that was only done a couple of days ago (literally). Update -here's the correct website: http://www.aguamatic.com/HP9.htm

The HP guys are really great. The kits look awsome and perform even better. They take their job very seriously and the results and craftmanship show it. Here's the pertinent string from another site.

http://www.turbomustangs.com/forums/...=&threadid=183

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Hey guys, we really appreciate the posts I am going to post the dyno sheets tomorrow so stay tunned
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How much is it??

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Been some doubting on this and some need of clarification on the efficiency of this setup and the turbo itself. Read this.

BTW, the car had already run [email protected] in Albuquerque (elev. 5500ft) with ~520rwhp in case anyone wants any track numbers to back up the power.
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ill bet my right arm that if u put pump gas in it, itll only make 400-450 at the wheels.. your running 27* and 118!! i think that i have the most inefficient turbo kit ever invented and im sure i could peak 550 at the wheels with the much timing and race fuel... and my t-25's dont flow worth anything, nor my IC..

MY POINT IS.. GIVE US A REALISTIC "STREET KIT" SET UP AND FIGURES.. I.E. 15 PSI 93 OCTANE AND A TIMING FIGURE THAT DONT DETONATE TO ****.. WHICHLL PROLLY B AROUND 18-21 TOTAL.

Didnt mean to get so testy.. but everyone is so excited over really nothing.. 118 and 27* common

Give us something that *most* people will duplicate

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so when does the block explode? I wanna see a movie of that...

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500RWHP from our kit on pump gas with very little work to the motor would not be a problem. This motor combo is so simple and not nere as good as it could be. The test pushed our base turbo to the max it isnt intended to give everybody a baseline for our kit. We push the limits so we Know when an upgrade is needed. I would say 550RWHP and beyond our 66mm would be good. With our 66mm turbo on 347 R-block tfs stage 1 heads holley systemax AFM B-4 cam 24 degrees of timming and 13 psi we made 717RWHP and 770RWTQ. On a bone stock mustang with 170,000 miles weld in flowmasters 23degrees of timming 12 psi it made 487RWHP and 568RWTQ pig rich, this is with our base kit. BTW race fuel ie118 will not make more power but gives you the ability to make more power with less chance of detonation. I appreciate all of the questions keep them up and God bless.
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BTW race fuel ie118 will not make more power but gives you the ability to make more power with less chance of detonation. I appreciate all of the questions keep them up and God bless.
im well aware of that.. its the timing... now to me.. thats more apealing.. a pump gas tune...
how about a flow rate/resistance in the IC? efficiency? etc.

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During the testing Richard Holdner did for the article at 13psi there was a little less than 1psi pressure drop and the temprature went from 240 deg to 130 deg. We are currently developing an air to water fender mount intercooler for our street kit. Thanks and God bless.
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With our 66mm turbo on 347 R-block tfs stage 1 heads holley systemax AFM B-4 cam 24 degrees of timming and 13 psi we made 717RWHP and 770RWTQ.
AFM B-4??? really?

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No lie it used to have a T-trim and he did not want to change the cam, lets talk about a 76mm or bigger for your car. Take care and God bless.
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Looks like a YS-trim for this year...

Im hoping for next summer ill have an hairdryer.

I hope to see comparo of blower cams in turbo application in the future.... im curious to see how mine compare.

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Mike made over 600rwhp on a mustang Dyno about 16 psi with his home built thunderbird. Stock block rods and crank.
no intercooler and no water injection.


the numbers are not to far off if the tune up is good.

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Me too. Maybe next year I'll have a hairdryer too. I'd love to run one with a mondo cooler. But for now it's off to d1r land!

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