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2 step & turbo????

Ok guys, I'm new to this turbo stuff & don't know anything about 2 steps. My question is will a 2 step work on a turbo car with no line lock or trans brake? Trying to drop the sixty foot some.

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2 step stops spark while clutch is compressed allowing u to power shift the car .. So yes a 2 step would def help.. Along with a ecu that allows different boost settings per gear..

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so if you foot brake it now what are you seeing boost wise? it's going to be tough to foot brake and two step it but it can be done..

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so if you foot brake it now what are you seeing boost wise? it's going to be tough to foot brake and two step it but it can be done..
That's what I was wondering if it could be done & would it be beneficial? I'm only able to stall the car to around 1800-2000. It's not really getting any boost off stall, or not enough. Just trying to drop the 60ft. A little
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Yes you can 2 step it on the foot brake no problem. There are even tricks to get it to stall higher with the 2 step if you can get it to actually make boost at that low of RPM. All in all, you need a different converter or have the one in the car re-stalled if you want the car to leave hard.
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What are your 60 foot times now? Turbo setup? Engine setup? Suspension setup? I would say the converter definitely needs to be looser, but there is a lot more involved to getting the car to 60 foot better.

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way to do this, Install a line lock along with the 2 step on the same button and then set your rpm about 200 below your actual stall speed. When you have the button in it will rev up until your 2 step rpm is reached and then will pull spark and cause the fuel to ignite in the header instead of inside engine. This causes heat to build which in turns spools up you turbo. I found this info on turboforums.com
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The only way a line lock would help with the 2 step is if you installed of on the back brakes lol

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The only way a line lock would help with the 2 step is if you installed of on the back brakes lol
please, explain your answer. LOL
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Not sure if you really don't understand. A line lock on the front tires is going to make the car do a damn burnout. The only way a line lock would help on the front tires would be so the back brakes wouldn't get hot in the burnout and would grab more in the lights. Putting the line lock on the back brakes would make it hold more power before trying to push through the brakes or do a burnout.
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Just buy a transbrake and be done with it.

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Not sure if you really don't understand. A line lock on the front tires is going to make the car do a damn burnout. The only way a line lock would help on the front tires would be so the back brakes wouldn't get hot in the burnout and would grab more in the lights. Putting the line lock on the back brakes would make it hold more power before trying to push through the brakes or do a burnout.

I'll use the word damn as you had to use it toward me, so back to you.This is what I thought you meant, but wanted to make sure before i go further into damn details. As I was stating above, you install linelock and 2 step on the same damn button and then set the damn 2 step a couple hundred rpm below the stall speed, <--- this means the 2 step will activate before the stall actually starts to lockup and turn the back tires. So, there is no damn need for rear linelock to keep rear tires from doing a burnout because theres no power going to them while on the 2 step. Thanks have a nice damn day!!!!!!
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Yeah obviously putting a lighter load and lower rpm is the way to do it. Great advice. Way to be a ####ing woman about the word damn too lol
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I'll use the word damn as you had to use it toward me, so back to you.This is what I thought you meant, but wanted to make sure before i go further into damn details. As I was stating above, you install linelock and 2 step on the same damn button and then set the damn 2 step a couple hundred rpm below the stall speed, <--- this means the 2 step will activate before the stall actually starts to lockup and turn the back tires. So, there is no damn need for rear linelock to keep rear tires from doing a burnout because theres no power going to them while on the 2 step. Thanks have a nice damn day!!!!!!
damn lol! By the way good advice. Im needing to do the same thing on my car.

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pretty interesting...although I knew a guy whose son chewed through the backseat of his new Chevy Blazer on a vacation once....the guy asked the kid why, and the kid said he was just bored....
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Also does anyone have a diagram for a auto car with line lock and a 2step?

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Not much to it, have the button send a signal to both the box and the solenoid. I have it set up that way on my trans brake with my 2 step, line lock on a separate button
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Yeah obviously putting a lighter load and lower rpm is the way to do it. Great advice. Way to be a ####ing woman about the word damn too lol

Yea, I was just gonna put one damn in it, but it just made me laugh everytime I typed it again. lol
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I like your theory though... except my car foot brakes to 2000 before it will do a burnout without the line lock and 4,000 on the brake, and that's on the motor. And we're talking about a guy whose converter stalls at 1800. Set your line lock and 2 step at 1600 and let us know of your exhilarating results. His #### just plain needs more load and more rpm
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I can stall my car up to 2700rpm on the foot brake and can build 2-3lbs currentlly, If I install a 2 step will I be able to build more boost at the same rpm? Will I be able to stall the car higher because it's making more power/boost? What do I need to change in the tune for a 2 step? If this is anything like spark blow out it will read lean instead of rich because the wb will read the unburnt air correct?

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This is the way to do it with a footbreak auto tou hook the 2 step to the ebreak light pull ebreak this turns on 2step witch will let you stall up as high as you can set 2 step little below the rpm that your breaks let go and on green light drop ebrake handle which will turn 2step off my car foot breaks 2000rpms without doing this at no boost doing this gets to about 2600rpm at 3lbs of boost and .3 faster 60fts
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I can stall my car up to 2700rpm on the foot brake and can build 2-3lbs currentlly, If I install a 2 step will I be able to build more boost at the same rpm? Will I be able to stall the car higher because it's making more power/boost? What do I need to change in the tune for a 2 step? If this is anything like spark blow out it will read lean instead of rich because the wb will read the unburnt air correct?
Yes it will make more boost at the same RPM. To do it correctly with the factory electronics you need the MSD 2 step box or something similar. Doing it in the tune will cut fuel, doing it correctly will cut spark. The way I get cars to stall higher because of the 2 step in a turbo car is to get the car up on the 2 step where it will make boost, then turn the 2 step off and let it stall the converter higher, making more RPM and more boost and leaving under more rpm and power. I've gotten cars that have too tight of a converter to 60' considerably better by doing this.
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Yes it will make more boost at the same RPM. To do it correctly with the factory electronics you need the MSD 2 step box or something similar. Doing it in the tune will cut fuel, doing it correctly will cut spark. The way I get cars to stall higher because of the 2 step in a turbo car is to get the car up on the 2 step where it will make boost, then turn the 2 step off and let it stall the converter higher, making more RPM and more boost and leaving under more rpm and power. I've gotten cars that have too tight of a converter to 60' considerably better by doing this.
I'm looking at the n2mb wot box for my car, think it's the only 2 step that will work. Great info and exactly what I needed to hear!

So will it be ok for the wb to be reading lean since the 2 step will be pulling spark and the wb will be reading unburnt air?

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