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18" drag radial suggestions...

2004 Mustang GT, should put down around 750 rwhp. Old turbo made 737 rwhp. It is a STREET car, but I would like it to hold traction at least in 3rd and 4th gear. Right now it has a tubular k-member, coil-overs in the front, KYB adjustable struts and shocks, Steeda lower control arms, both sway bars are still hooked up and they will remain hooked up as it is a street car. I have 3.73's out back for gears.

I am running a 18 x 9 up front and a 18 x 10 out back. Tires out back are a 315/30/18 Hoosier drag radial. The Hoosier's worked pretty good when they were new, but now I can spin them pretty easily in 3rd and sometimes 4th. I'd like a tire that can be driven in the rain if I get caught in it. I've ran M/T drag radials and Nitto drag radials on my old fox. They both did a good job, but this is a whole new ball game with the turbo car making some steam.

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You can run the Mickey's, they're a lot better in the rain than the hoosiers (what isn't?), but traction isn't going to be any better.

If you want traction, for YOUR application I would look at a nice boost controller that does boost by gear. That should help you get the power down.

Also, changing to something like a 3.27 gear would help make that power more manageable.


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Well there not nessisarily a drag radial
But the toyo r888 is a good competition tire with excellent wet traction
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Also agree with him on the boost controller
U can get a good digital one that allows u to control boost based on rpm for when it on the street
Eboost2 is a good setup but they are 500 bucks
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Toyo TQ's are the best drag radial I've run so far. My car will dead hook at any speed as long as the car is moving. Granted my 510 wheel isn't your 750 wheel, but I'm only running a 275 and not a 315.

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Nitto 555R if you want decent mileage out of a good hooking tire thats not bad in the rain at all. A truely street friendly dr imho.

Mickey et street radials if you want more dry traction, but less wet and less mileage.

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Nitto 555R if you want decent mileage out of a good hooking tire thats not bad in the rain at all. A truely street friendly dr imho.
I had those on my car before the Toyo TQ's. The TQ's are better in every way. Wet or dry traction. They are even wearing pretty good.

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I have driven on tq's they are definetly nice, my buddy has them on his turbo miata. I wasnt impressed enough to make a switch and they dont have them in the size Im looking for.

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I've been planning on runing the 315/30/18 Hoosier drag radial as my next tire. So I'll be watching this one.

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You need 3.27 gear swap, 3.73 moving rpm way to fast. As for tires mt et street will give as good traction and good mileage .


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Would a tune change be required with swapping to a 3.27 since technically you are adding more load with the longer gear ratio?

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Would a tune change be required with swapping to a 3.27 since technically you are adding more load with the longer gear ratio?
It will load better so you might have to add fuel , it will pull like mofo compare to 3.73 . Your speedo need to be adjusted too.

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As for tires mt et street will give as good traction and good mileage .
They definitely hook well. But a buddy of mine wiped his out in six months. That was only about 2K miles and two trips to the drag strip.

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They definitely hook well. But a buddy of mine wiped his out in six months. That was only about 2K miles and two trips to the drag strip.
I think it depends on how you drive. I can usually get 6000-8000 miles out of a set of M/T's.

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They definitely hook well. But a buddy of mine wiped his out in six months. That was only about 2K miles and two trips to the drag strip.
With dr you should drive like dr not like street car tires , take corner little slower and don't beat on the every time you drive then it will last. Mine got me good 8-10k out of them with tons of track use .

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Mine lasted me a good while, 3 years around 6k street miles and 25-30 healthly 5-6 second burnouts at the track.

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I am running the regular NT05 295 tires and the car holds in 3rd and 4th gear. 763 RWHP but also coil overs in the rear.

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It will load better so you might have to add fuel , it will pull like mofo compare to 3.73 . Your speedo need to be adjusted too.
Interesting, the car already hauls the mail very well. Gave me tunnel vision the first time I went for a ride in it...I have sct pro racer software, so adding fuel is no problem. I also have new axles and a diff waiting to go in. Maybe I can convince my neighbor to put some 3.27's in it once spring time comes around.

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Interesting, the car already hauls the mail very well. Gave me tunnel vision the first time I went for a ride in it...I have sct pro racer software, so adding fuel is no problem. I also have new axles and a diff waiting to go in. Maybe I can convince my neighbor to put some 3.27's in it once spring time comes around.
It will be different animal , pulls never ends

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I am running a 18 x 9 up front and a 18 x 10 out back. Tires out back are a 315/30/18 Hoosier drag radial. The Hoosier's worked pretty good when they were new, but now I can spin them pretty easily in 3rd and sometimes 4th.
how many miles did they last?

i just installed them on my car (we're making similar power) and love them. i've also had great results with the NT05Rs. on the street that is.

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You need 3.27 gear swap, 3.73 moving rpm way to fast.
x2. i changed from 373s to 331s (can be found all day long on ebay in like new condition) and it was a huge difference. my 550 tune felt like the old 650 one.

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how many miles did they last?

i just installed them on my car (we're making similar power) and love them. i've also had great results with the NT05Rs. on the street that is.



x2. i changed from 373s to 331s (can be found all day long on ebay in like new condition) and it was a huge difference. my 550 tune felt like the old 650 one.
They were on the car when I bought it. The tires were about a year old. I couldn't hold traction at the top of 3rd gear. I took them off this weekend and replaced them with some used Toyo drag radials that the previous owner had. The Toyo's are in the same boat, they spin, but I haven't lowered the tire pressure down yet to see if they actually work.

I might have to toss in the longer gears...it would be nice to be able to hammer the gas and be able to feel the power for longer then a second or so. LOL

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I had a toyo proxis tq 315 35 18 on a 10in wheel on my 04 gt. By far the best tire ive ever owned. Dead hooked on the street and track and did great in the rain. I got more than 8k miles out of them even with dozens of passs and smokey burnouts.

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not trying to hijack this thread at all,some good info here..i'm looking for a set of STREET tires 335/30/18 does anyone make that size tire in a compound that will last 15000 or more? no racing,just occasional getting on it with around 550 rwhp..mostly cruising ,..this is on a 18-11 wheel..thanks for any info
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I had a toyo proxis tq 315 35 18 on a 10in wheel on my 04 gt. By far the best tire ive ever owned. Dead hooked on the street and track and did great in the rain. I got more than 8k miles out of them even with dozens of passs and smokey burnouts.
What suspension do you have? My car is slammed pretty good, so I know that hurts the hook, but anything is better then nothing if a tire can help the hook!

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not trying to hijack this thread at all,some good info here..i'm looking for a set of STREET tires 335/30/18 does anyone make that size tire in a compound that will last 15000 or more? no racing,just occasional getting on it with around 550 rwhp..mostly cruising ,..this is on a 18-11 wheel..thanks for any info
Pirelli P-Zero. I used to run them. They are expensive but they lasted about as long as you're looking for.

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I use BFG Drag Radials. I'm working on sub 50mph traction (just lowered the psi to 20) and will test some more as its hit or miss depending on the temperature outside.

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Change to 3.27's. Then see how things change. If its still not hooking, try a diff drag radial. You WILL enjoy the 3.27's.
You could also pick up another set of rims and run a set of more aggressive DR's on there when you want to play and run something like the R88 or NT05 for regular street use.
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Change to 3.27's. Then see how things change. If its still not hooking, try a diff drag radial. You WILL enjoy the 3.27's.
You could also pick up another set of rims and run a set of more aggressive DR's on there when you want to play and run something like the R88 or NT05 for regular street use.
I think the gear swap is already planned for the spring. Just have to talk with my drivetrain guy to set it up. This thing has zero traction right now with the 3.73's, so I think the switch to a 3.27 will probably be the best bet.

I'll be curious to see what it does to the tune. Might have to add a little fuel here and there to make up for the added load.

I have the Toyo Proxis TQ's on the car right now. I can shred them easily in 3rd gear and 4th if I build boost quick enough.

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think i'm going to try those Nittos..heard they can last up to 10,000 if not crazy on the burnouts,etc wonder who has the best deals on 335/35/18's?
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Bringing this one back from the dead...

I have since changed to 3.27's.

I have to put a few more miles on the new build before I start getting crazy with WOT pulls.

I am going to see how the Proxes TQ's do, then I will decided if I am going to switch to a different brand DR. I have had thoughts about switching to the R888, but really haven't heard any opinions on them for 700+ rwhp.

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I have since gone to the 315 NT05R. 1st gear on the street spins, but not ridiculously. 2nd gear just hooks and goes.

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I have 275 NT05's on a 18" wheel under my fox and they don't hook on the street for nothing. Hoping to have better luck at the track. I have 355 gears on 11psi of boost. It will burn 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.i can punch it in 3rd from a roll and will still spin some when the boost hits. I know if I changed to a 327 or 331 gear it would be better but I'll go to MT ET streets when the nittos wear out. The MT's you don't get miles out of them but they hook like hell for a DR. My car is a weekend driver so mileage isn't a big issue

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Anyone have any experience with the R888's in a 315/30/18?

Now that the car is tuned I can report that 1st & 2nd gear spin once boost comes on. 3rd and 4th gear hook. This is with a Proxes TQ in a 315/35/18.

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