In my original thread I posted the times of when everything happened and why they happened that way. I have no clue where you are getting 9 months or a year from. I ordered the kit in the fall of last year. Didn't know they werent Siemens injectors till I had the car at the dyno and he had a real set to put on the car once he figured out that's what the problem was. Who would of thought a "honest" shop would advertise Siemens deka and sell their own brand instead. He never mentioned his own brand injectors until after the whole ordeal.
Yes, I probably should have called immediately but I didn't take a magnifying glass to the side of the injector to see on3 stamped approximately 1/16" on the side so how would I know without ever seeing Siemens Deka before then.
Honestly, this is stupid. We have different opinions and this could go on forever. I just don't want people who aren't involved in the situation to act like they are all knowing and dumbing down the facts of what truly happened.
Let's be clear, I have not avoided any of your questions or accusations. I have absolutely nothing to hide.
i have nothing to hide. i asked a simple question and you bounced right around it. wanting to take it private. just makes me think. now the argument to you telling me how did we know on3 sold injectors, well i KNOW its posted in a few on3 threads. its rather easy for even a complete dumbass to google what a seimens injector looks like, and compare it to the ones received. the deka injectors say the name right on them, along with the part number which once typed into google tells you sizes etc. now see, you guys want to claim dumb now that it comes out "how did we know" we you like forums for the info sharing right? i sure would be checking every thing over with a fine tooth comb.
how is someone completely new to the car modding scene supposed to know the difference between a real siemens injector and a chinese knockoff without having someone like a tuner (who had seen the same issue before) tell us they were wrong?
What gives you the idea that we knew they were laying around for 4 months knowing they were wrong?? We didn't know they were wrong until after being at the dyno for almost a whole day of the car not even running and the tuner telling us to check them. We didn't even know that on3 sold junk injectors, we could only go by what his own WEBSITE advertises!! Why should we have questioned him (until we had problems, obviously)??
It's clear you deal with on3 all the time....you can't believe anything anyone says!! Must be hard to deal with such a lying scumbag all the time...
and no, i have always lived by one rule, believe nothing of what you hear, and only 1/2 of what you see.
and the problem i have with internet forums, business's and so on. IS none of them take care to try to educate the customer, like my business focuses on, or said company is doing just one thing. making a product that yes works, but could be way better. But its cheap right, thats why most order it in the first place.
New to the car modding scene...then... research research research.. and then some more.
completely new to the car scene, and the first thing your doing is trying to install a turbo kit........ well that answers alot of questions then dont it
now go to google and search for the injectors... there is a difference in the body alone. this leads me right back to research, research and then more research.. thats what being a true junky with cars does.
plenty of people here know i sell and install the on3 stuff. alone with many many other things. someone one day tired to order a kit thru me, i flat told him i dont just sell kits, i upgrade the kit, and install them only. and if i was to sell you a kit, you wouldnt like the price. precision turbos, coated, wrapped the whole nine yards is what i go with. turn it into a 3500 plus kit real fast. but any one remember the hellion thread that didnt have the bungs welded in, and had china hardware for the oiling stuff??....and was 4500? it is what it is. yes alot of the older turbos got hosed(but some didnt even had oil going to them, and had issues.. so who is that to blame, but now the same company making the turbos, is the same one that made MP's. all the hardware is good old stuff you can go down to napa and get, i personally dont like the hose used, but that me. i go an and heat sleeved and so on. yes i have seen plenty or cars do well with the kits, and i heard of alot of issues, and seen some proof that only backs up the fact people are stupid. like the road trip i made for a guy who was out of gas, started slowly installing his turbo kit over winter, bosch injectors and whole 9 yards, and blames the kit on not letting the car start. come to fin out the car was out of gas.. but yet blames that on on3 too.
so what am i to believe from any one on the net. all i am saying is i find it stupid you didnt open up the boxs and check every thing, to make sure it was what you was billed for. but then, your mess came up right about the time mike screwed up a ton of ####, and chad was cleaning up mess's left and right. hell their could be alot more going on then any of us know, but whos to say. im not agreeing with you, or ON3... im just saying the same thing over and over again. you should have opened them up and made sure it was what it said on billing. esp if you was not getting it all in one box or all at one time. i mean if you open the turbo up and find the fins in the front cold side housing all bent to hell, would you still install it(and no im not saying this has happened) but i have scene stupid people do some stupid stuff. or like the guy that dropped his turbo as he was taking it out of the box, and he broke it, tried to warranty it.. deal with a few people a day that need baby sat while doing a turbo kit etc, and it gets old after a awhile.