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The "Ultimate" No leak on3 Turbo Kit Guide

First of all, this is not serious but this is how I and others have dealt with on3 turbo kit v band leaks and it seems to be the best way to go about it.

The biggest issue I found with my v bands is that the clamping area is actually too damn large besides the clamps are just low quality.

Fix: Buy 2.5 inch V band clamps from V-Band assemblies, V-Band Clamp, RPS-V-clamp | RacePartSolutions.com

Total cost with coupon code 0001 (10% off) and shipping= Under $60.00


Wonder which one is which

Take notice of the clamping zone, the RPS ones are much smaller and actually clamp the connections tight like they should be.

Great, now that you have better v band clamps you may even be able to get away with some rtv copper silicone but unfortunately you may need gaskets like I did.

There are many types of gaskets but due to the extreme temps and pressure you really need something that will hold.

Modularspeed told me that these gaskets have held for him so that is what I went with.

OBX Gasket Downpipe 3 Bolt 2.5" w/ Metal Ring | eBay

I bought them and cut the tabs off to get this.


I also located a cheaper source...so instead of 16 on ebay they are 9 here:
OBX Gasket Downpipe 3 Bolt 2.5'' w/ Metal Ring - Part Number: N/A - Sparktec Motorsports

I ordered them and got them from cali to Delaware in 5 days.

I installed them with the new clamps, dry, and have no leaking issues as far as I can tell. Time will tell how they hold up.


If you do all this and still have issues you could pick up some of this stuff.


Some people have actually used just this stuff with no gaskets but it didnt seem like a very good solution to me.

Anyways, hopefully his can help some on3 guys with leaks since it seems to be a universal problem for us.


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Someone finally made this thread. I was wondering when it would pop up.

I am pretty sure Chad (On3) may start including gaskets similar to these, in his kits. I think he should, they work.


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Yea, figured I would make one so there isnt 1000 on3 v band leak threads.

I talked to chad about his gaskets and actually bought a few of them from him to check em out.

Not sure what material they are, probably the graphite stuff but I was gonna try them out for him to see how they held up.

I told him he should include them with the kits and he said he may include them or at the very least have them as an option for people to buy with the kits.

I just know they need something in there if they ever plan on using the stock v band clamps.
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No need for gaskets. They are a band-aid for a bad design or low quality parts.

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Thanks for your awesome insightful post filled with great knowledge!

Re-read my original post.

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Great, now that you have better v band clamps you may even be able to get away with some rtv copper silicone but unfortunately you may need gaskets like I did.
Do you think I or anyone else using gaskets doesn't know this? The problem is if they dont seal, your gonna need something in there to fix the problem if your not willing to weld all new flanges on.

No #### they are a "band aid"....but If I can spend 30 bucks on some gaskets and they will work for years I am fine with this band aid.

If the gaskets wont hold and blow out every 2 days then that is when I would move on to some new v band flanges but until that is the case, this seems like the best way to get by.

Honestly, If I would have known these wouldnt seal right without gaskets I would have had some higher quality v bands welded on when the kit was off the car.

Unfortunately I am not pulling this whole kit off the car now if I can make it work with a few gaskets and figured this could help some others in the same situation.

Regardless of how v bands are designed to work, gaskets are used everywhere else on cars and arent considered band aids there.

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Is this for all On3 kits?...I dont think mine are leaking yet..i have a fox body kit...

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No need for gaskets. They are a band-aid for a bad design or low quality parts.
That sounds just like a b&g/ turbo forums nut swinger statement LOL
The gaskets and new clamps are working good for me so far. If Thats all I have to do extra is use new clamps and gaskets then Ill be happy.
When I am bleeding I love a good band-aid.

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no mad. Gaskets are band aids. I don't even Ren head gaskets on my car
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No head gaskets? Your like gi joe! You don't need any stinking band - aids LOL.

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Ya man. High quality heads don't need no gaskets
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good write up , thats what i had to do on my vbands too, but then i came up with a solution , either use male female flanges or run the pipe all the through to the next vband to were it would work like male female flange then just alittle copper rtv an it would be 100% seal
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On the on-3 kits for downpipe to turbo (70MM) takes 3" vband correct?
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Thanks for your awesome insightful post filled with great knowledge!

Re-read my original post.



Do you think I or anyone else using gaskets doesn't know this? The problem is if they dont seal, your gonna need something in there to fix the problem if your not willing to weld all new flanges on.
A little mad you bought cheap #### to start with..... gotcha.

Its called cut them off and weld the proper ones on there.

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That sounds just like a b&g/ turbo forums nut swinger statement.
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Typical answer when you cant argue the facts at hand.

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Thanks for your awesome insightful post filled with great knowledge!
He is just mad because he has a slow fox body.

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The title of this thread should be " Why do I continue to have to replace all this cheap #### just to get my #### to work".

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He is just mad because he has a slow fox body.
Another one that cant stick to the facts!!!

How is that 345 rwhp monster of yours!! ( see how stupid it sounds just cause its your sig)

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Typical answer when you cant argue the facts at hand.
Why are you even on these forums? Just to bash on3 and everyone that has had good luck with it? You really are an asset to this place!

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Dudes a ####ing tool and a half.

How about you read my whole post and absorb jackass. I said right in my post that I would have welded some higher quality stuff on there had I known they would leak.
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Honestly, If I would have known these wouldnt seal right without gaskets I would have had some higher quality v bands welded on when the kit was off the car.


Yea I'm so mad my 2k dollar Turbo kit makes the same power as an 8k dollar kit. Its horrible! !!!!!



Nobody gives a #### what you think, if you dont like on3 then stay the #### out of on3 threads.

its that simple

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im happy with mine. i get by with better clamps and rtv. the original ones stripped when you tightened bolt tight.

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im happy with mine. i get by with better clamps and rtv. the original ones stripped when you tightened bolt tight.
Nice! Like I said in my first post, you can probably get away with just clamps and rtv.


Mine pretty much sealed dry when i tested them
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No need for gaskets. They are a band-aid for a bad design or low quality parts.
its freeking sad that threads like this one pop up for what seems like a simple fix. people will buy crap and then find a way to spend more money on it to make it right when they could have gotten close to the $$ of a good kit with less headache
to each their own i guess

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Better quality clamps and gaskets are a simple fix IMO

Not sure what kits you are comparing but for us modular guys we don't have many options....hellion base kit is like 6k

2k dollar on3 kit and a few headaches works for me
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didnt know you were a mod guy i was talking for the 5.0 / 5.8 stuff guess i could have asked it just seems there is so much drama following the on 3 stuff

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Yea 4.6 2v. Those looks like very quality hot sides. Hopefully the on3 hot side doesn't fall apart on me.
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Yeah cheapest option for us Modular guys besides ON3 is Hellion which is $4,000 more expensive than the ON3 kit so I will be happy to buy a tube or 2 of gasket sealent, a couple clamps, and a couple gaskets totaling less than $100

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the guys at cg fab are making my new kit its 434ci with a 106mm street car so i think that they may be able to provide some pics for you 4.6 guys they were super helpful on helping me decide what i am going to use


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maybe this will help some

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Why are you even on these forums? Just to bash on3 and everyone that has had good luck with it? You really are an asset to this place!

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Hows that good luck working for you? After you redo the whole kit your probally happy as a pig in ####!!

Im not knocking on3. #### he has the greatest business model ever...... buy cheap and sell to even cheaper jackasses and make a profit.... what could be better. I'm just sitting back and laughing at you not with you.

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Dudes a ####ing tool and a half.

How about you read my whole post and absorb jackass. I said right in my post that I would have welded some higher quality stuff on there had I known they would leak.




Yea I'm so mad my 2k dollar Turbo kit makes the same power as an 8k dollar kit. Its horrible! !!!!!



Nobody gives a #### what you think, if you dont like on3 then stay the #### out of on3 threads.

its that simple
Yeah cause you couldve read what maybe the first page on here and known that you would have had to do that geez!

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Yeah cheapest option for us Modular guys besides ON3 is Hellion which is $4,000 more expensive than the ON3 kit so I will be happy to buy a tube or 2 of gasket sealent, a couple clamps, and a couple gaskets totaling less than $100
You can get CG Fabrication's hot side, coat that and buy ebay knock offs to finish the kit up (which would be the same parts as the On3) and have not much more into the kit then the On3 except you'd have a much nicer quality hot side that would last much longer.
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You can get CG Fabrication's hot side, coat that and buy ebay knock offs to finish the kit up (which would be the same parts as the On3) and have not much more into the kit then the On3 except you'd have a much nicer quality hot side that would last much longer.
I didn't even know cg fabrication existed lol.

When you say last longer, you think the on3 parts will crack?

How long do you think they will last?
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Still not seeing the correlation. When does a time in someones sig exactly relate to thier knowledge of racing?

I will answer...... it doesnt. You have no idea what was done to run those times,when those times were ran,or what car it was that even ran times.

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