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I want a 400hp 2v and it's cheapest route.

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first gen kits sucks

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I have the forward facing kit. It fit pretty good. If you go that route I would go ahead and order 3 2.5" v-band clamps from racepartsolutions.com and 3 2.5" obx down pipe gaskets to go in the v-band connections. The clamps that On3 supply are junk! Other than the leaks I love the kit!

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Copper rtv sealant for the vbands works great.

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How about the k member? What do I need for springs and all?

How's the bov and wastegate
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Honestly a used $1500 or less S Trim is your cheapest route, or full boltons & 150 shot, or cams and a 100 shot.

My friend bought an 03 GT from me a couple years ago and recently got it running with a first gen On3 kit he bought last year. It's very laggy, but some of that is the MP76mm turbo, and some of it is all of the piping in the kit. It does not have a great powerband, but the car pulls hard once it's going.

He did the UPR K Member, A Arms and Coilovers. The k member fitment isnt great with one of the pipes. He bought new v bands from somewhere else online, no leaks to report!

12 psi = 472 rwhp SAE with an open downpipe on a forged low compression shortblock (that car was a SLUG n/a), a slightly less flowing than stock dorman autoparts store replacement intake, stock heads, stock cams, comp or crower springs, Accufab 75mm Plenum & TB. Car now has a full Magnaflow Catback, not sure what it lost for power yet over the open downpipe.

From a roll, brake boosting it, it ran off pretty good on a pullied 03 Cobra, although some of that is the weight difference I suppose.
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Copper rtv sealant for the vbands works great.
It worked great for 2 or 3 heat cycles. I think its hit and miss when it comes to the cheaper flanges.

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How about the k member? What do I need for springs and all?

How's the bov and wastegate
Not sure what you need to do for spring rates. Just call upr and tell them what u want to do with the car and they can lead you in the right direction.
As for the waste gate and bov, mine are working perfectly. I haven't tried changing the spring in the gate. I just left the lightest spring in and got a manual boost controller.

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I am debating it.. Due to having 4.10 gears and full bolt ons except for long tubes.
A vortech or procharger would be sweet but your only full boost when it's at 5800-6200 rpm.. Unlike a turbo were you can be full boost at 3800 or so.

I'm just stuck and can't make my mind.
A blower I wouldn't need a k member or switch gears back to3.27
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That's exactly why I switched to a turbo! I had a s-trim on the car a few months ago. Unless your pushing like 15lbs you don't make boost down low. I see 8-9 lbs at 3k rpms with the turbo and mhs recession buster cams.

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Well there's a good deal on a polished procharger intercooled 8psi kit everything except pump and injectors for 1700 plus shipping.
That beats the brakes off a on3 and pricing the k member and gear swap etx
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Copper rtv sealant for the vbands works great.
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Honestly a used $1500 or less S Trim is your cheapest route, or full boltons & 150 shot, or cams and a 100 shot.

My friend bought an 03 GT from me a couple years ago and recently got it running with a first gen On3 kit he bought last year. It's very laggy, but some of that is the MP76mm turbo, and some of it is all of the piping in the kit. It does not have a great powerband, but the car pulls hard once it's going.

He did the UPR K Member, A Arms and Coilovers. The k member fitment isnt great with one of the pipes. He bought new v bands from somewhere else online, no leaks to report!

12 psi = 472 rwhp SAE with an open downpipe on a forged low compression shortblock (that car was a SLUG n/a), a slightly less flowing than stock dorman autoparts store replacement intake, stock heads, stock cams, comp or crower springs, Accufab 75mm Plenum & TB. Car now has a full Magnaflow Catback, not sure what it lost for power yet over the open downpipe.

From a roll, brake boosting it, it ran off pretty good on a pullied 03 Cobra, although some of that is the weight difference I suppose.
76 is way to big for a sohc car. the mp70 spooled to full boost by 2800rpm on the first gen kits once you get the driver side pipe to seal to the manifold

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How about the k member? What do I need for springs and all?

How's the bov and wastegate
newer gates work ok and i have never had a issue with a bov yet

just get the full upr kit and tell them what you do with the car and they can help you on spring rates

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76 is way to big for a sohc car. the mp70 spooled to full boost by 2800rpm on the first gen kits once you get the driver side pipe to seal to the manifold
Well, the plan was for the 76 to get traded for a 70, but they got tired of waiting around and just put the car together. Kit was bought from guy who bought it with intentions of maxing the 76 out, but he only ever idled the car with it, took the car apart, put a big block in it and made it a race car. Friend bought turbo kit from him.

I cant see anyway a 70mm would spool by 2800 with this kit, maybe with a tiny a/r. Car makes ZERO boost in first gear. This car doesnt come on until 4500-5000, and thats with no leaks, but Im not disagreeing that a 76 is too big for what it is. If it had heads/cams and a useable rpm range, the 76 could be made to work though.
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What gears optimal 3.27?
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This 4.6 needs power lol..
Thats why I'm stuck
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From what I have read 3.27 keep the turbo spooled and in the power band longer. I have a set waiting to go in. The 410s are only good for a smoke show with the turbo.

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Go with 3.27's
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Well, the plan was for the 76 to get traded for a 70, but they got tired of waiting around and just put the car together. Kit was bought from guy who bought it with intentions of maxing the 76 out, but he only ever idled the car with it, took the car apart, put a big block in it and made it a race car. Friend bought turbo kit from him.

I cant see anyway a 70mm would spool by 2800 with this kit, maybe with a tiny a/r. Car makes ZERO boost in first gear. This car doesnt come on until 4500-5000, and thats with no leaks, but Im not disagreeing that a 76 is too big for what it is. If it had heads/cams and a useable rpm range, the 76 could be made to work though.
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and i am wrong. the mp70 spools up completely on the dyno in 3rd by 3300


the forward facing kits spool up faster around 2800 now that i remember correctly

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Mother of god that's very nice
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I have the 1st gen kit. Only because I bought it brand new for only 900 bucks. And got a qa1 kmember. Kmember fits perfect for me. As for the turbo kit I had one bad leak. Where the merge pipe is (through to drivers side a arm. ) So I made a relief cut bent it to fit then welded the relief cut back together. No leaks at all. 3000rpms I had full boost At (10psi). I also had 4.10 gears. Hated them with turbo. Ran that way for 1 year. Then switched to 3.27. Made a huge difference. Got more load on turbo. Car pulled harder and felt faster. Ran a 11.9 @119. (1.89 60ft). Picked up 4 mph over 4.10 gears. Then 2 weeks later. Bent 2 Rods and spun a bearing. Pretty sure the extra load caused it from gears. Now I'm on a mmr short block. Breaking her in and can't wait to boost it to 18lbs

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Mother of god that's very nice
and thats 6.5 psi.. cars is running 8 waiting for it to pop..lol we have been building a 5.4 for it cams etc. and switching to the forward facing on it, and may leave the mp70 on it just to see how fast i can spool it. but after putting a good turbo on one of the 5.0 kits, i think i can make the forward facing kits make some stupid power. guess we will see with the 4v build im doing now

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My rear is in process of being fixed.
I might end up doing on3 and switching gears again
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Do it! Once you go turbo you will never want another power adder!

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Do it! Once you go turbo you will never want another power adder!

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the k member was a bitch wasnt it
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Heck no! Borrow a cross brace to hold the engine up or buy one from harbor freight for 50 bucks. With that you can have yours out and the new in in a few hours.

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I have a 98 with the 1st gen kit on it. Fitment wasnt bad at all on mine. The K memeber wasnt to bad but i did it when i built the motor. I did have some exhaust leaks that were worse then i thought but i have since fixed them with some gaskets similer to the OBX ones and helped the spool time alot. I do have an Auto in my car which helps for spooling as well. I have the Masterpower 76 with the .96 a/r exhaust housing so i dont hit full boost till around 4 but it runs effin hard. lol I have a built mmr motor with ported heads and hp stage 2 blower cams. (was orig going blower). I have 3.55 gears. Also at the track i use a trans brake so i dont have to worry about lag at the track lol. THe Forward racing kit does spool alot faster and is way more efficent. You can check out my build if you want ill post the link. Also here is a couple videos. Once you go turbo you wont want to go to a blower lol.

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Heck no! Borrow a cross brace to hold the engine up or buy one from harbor freight for 50 bucks. With that you can have yours out and the new in in a few hours.

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I need to look into that. I have a harbor freight down the street.
That's why I haven't bought a blower/long tubes because I have been debating turbo.

Why does on3 have such a ####ty rep on the boards?
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I had my kmember professorialy installed with 14 175 coil over springs. A lot of people complain about them being noisey but mine are not..

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I had my kmember professorialy installed with 14 175 coil over springs. A lot of people complain about them being noisey but mine are not..
all depends on the camber caster plates honestly

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Sorry to thread jack op but im getting a first gen kit for my 01 cobra and im wondering if the qa1 k-member will work with it.
Or does it have to be the upr chromoly one??
can someone please advise?

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For those of you buying this kit, listen to us that have it, buy the damn obx 3 bolt gaskets or some sort of gaskets and the racepartsolution clamps....the rtv will burn up and be gone after a few heat cycles and most likely will leak.

I had leaks from all 3 of my connections on the FF kit so it wasnt spooling fully till like 4500 rpms lol
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So other than the crappy gaskets and clamps the kit is pretty solid for the price?
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