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went to the track today!!!!!!!!!

hey guys i went to the track! i only got to run 3 times in 4 hours. there were way to many people running. AND BREAKING !!!!! lol AND WAY TO HOT

well i did get into the 11's


1st run 12.45 @117 2.04 60ft

2nd run 12.20 @116 1.88 60ft

3rd run 11.99 @ 119 1.82 60ft


i definitively need to work on my 60ft times. i think a 2step along with some control arms. should help out.

but 11.99 on a BONE stock motor. stock tranny/clutch and stock suspension i really cant complain.

i plan on going in November. I NEED MORE SEAT TIME. TO WORK ON MY LAUNCHING

BOOST WAS DIALED IN AT 10 PSI.

TIRE PRESSURE ON 11.99 RUN WAS AT 13LBS

ANY ADVICE WOULD BE GREAT!!!!!!!!

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Very cool! Is this the forward facing kit?

What gears do you have, and what RPM launching???


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so you gained 5mph from swapping the 4:10s for 3:27s.....thats almost like adding 50hp, sweet!

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so you gained 5mph from swapping the 4:10s for 3:27s.....thats almost like adding 50hp, sweet!
yeap!! it definitely had more left in here. if i could lower my 60ft.

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Very cool! Is this the forward facing kit?

What gears do you have, and what RPM launching???
nope i have the old kit. i get full boost coming in at 3300rpm. its 100% leak free.


i just switched to 3.27s 3 days prier to going to track

3000 rpm launch

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Congrats !!!! Launch 5k+ rpm.

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Congrats !!!! Launch 5k+ rpm.

Ya great advice

So anyways OP

-What tires are you running?

-What were you launching @?

-How was it hooking in 1st and 2nd gear??

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Ya great advice
What so funny? launch 5k ride clutch done.

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Thats awesome man, and once again the age old gear debate has real world results!

Thats something to be proud of on your combo, congrats!!

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Nice!
what did it run before the gear swap? think I read you jump bumped the boost up also, but what was the 60ft difference?
a lil bit of rear suspension and seat time and it should be 11.50s.


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Definetly got the mph for a faster et.
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Ya great advice

So anyways OP

-What tires are you running?

-What were you launching @?

-How was it hooking in 1st and 2nd gear??




tires are et streets 26 x 10.50

launching at 3000 rpms

seemed like it was hooking great in 1st and 2nd

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ok will do. i should have car back Tuesday or Wednesday ill most likely start a thread.

because Saturday im going to track as well.

with 4.10's ----- best i could get was 12.04 @ 117 at 6-7 psi (hitting rev limiter in 4th b4 traps)
So with a 3.27 gear, 10 PSI....the car went [email protected]

With a 4.10, it went [email protected] hitting limiter before the traps....ON 6-7 PSI...

Maybe a 3.73 gear would have worked best?

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Nice!
what did it run before the gear swap? think I read you jump bumped the boost up also, but what was the 60ft difference?
a lil bit of rear suspension and seat time and it should be 11.50s.


4.10's best i could get was 12.04 @ 114mph 1.80 60ft

60ft was better with 4.10s

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4.10's best i could get was 12.04 @ 114mph 1.80 60ft

60ft was better with 4.10s
So my quote is wrong?

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here is the 2 times slips


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So with a 3.27 gear, 10 PSI....the car went [email protected]

With a 4.10, it went [email protected] hitting limiter before the traps....ON 6-7 PSI...

Maybe a 3.73 gear would have worked best?


yea i think a 3.55 or so , would of bin more idea with my power level. BUT my new motor is going in this winter and im shooting for around 600rwhp. so the 3.27's will be best for that power level.

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Oh okay, I see.

Was the 4.10 run on 6-7 PSI....and the 3.27 run on 10??

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Oh okay, I see.

Was the 4.10 run on 6-7 PSI....and the 3.27 run on 10??
yea thats correct. im gonna run again in november with same setup. i know i can lower my 60ft time.

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timeslips look almost identical except for the mph

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timeslips look almost identical except for the mph
Kinda makes you wonder what the 4.10 run wouldve been on 10 PSI huh?

Dare I say, it would have been much better, even coasting through the traps?

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So you hit the limiter with 4.10s?

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Also how are you logging and controlling the boost?

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Im courious why this cars times are so far off.

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Cant expect 10s on a stock bottom end with a 1.8 60ft. Id say he ran pretty good. I believe the increase in boost came from the gear change, and main reason why it trapped 5mph higher. He would have had to crank on the boost knob to get 10psi out of the old gears. 4:10s suck on a turbo car

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Cant expect 10s on a stock bottom end with a 1.8 60ft. Id say he ran pretty good. I believe the increase in boost came from the gear change, and main reason why it trapped 5mph higher. He would have had to crank on the boost knob to get 10psi out of the old gears. 4:10s suck on a turbo car
By looking at his slips, I don't see how you can state that a 4.10 sucks on a turbo car. Looks to me that they were pretty comparable, and the 4.10 set-up actually out performed the 3.27 set-up "boost for boost" and "mph for mph"

I agree that a 4.10 is not an optimal turbo gear in his application, but I think a 3.73 would be perfect for it.

You gain 3-4 PSI by gear changes?

You mean, if you have a 8 PSI spring...it can make 11 PSI with numerically lower gears?

Or, if you have an 8 PSI spring, it could make 4-5 PSI with 4.10's?

I better not go to a 3.27, I will be at like 12-13 PSI on my 8 lb spring!!!!!

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LOL you really think your "8lb spring" is gonna make 8psi on every car its installed on? Run your car on an unloaded dyno and see how much boost you make

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Does a wastegate know what combo it is on??????

I have 8lb springs in my wastegates......on an unloaded dynojet the car made 8psi. It also makes 8 psi on street.

This isnt about dynos...its about performance.

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Does a wastegate know what combo it is on??????

I have 8lb springs in my wastegates......on an unloaded dynojet the carmade 8psi.

This isnt about dynos...its about performance.
Its the same idea. If your dyno wasnt loaded you wouldnt have been able to make any boost. What happens when you put the car in neutral and start revving the engine? Do you see 8psi then? No, you wont make any boost because the engine is not under load. I mean really, its not rocket science

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Wow. You are going off topic.

If you are relating this to gear ratios....would you recommend a 2.73 gear ratio to the OP over a 3.27????? If not...could you explain your reasoning?

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LS1......is your car a dyno queen? Got any slips from the track?

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ok guys lol i have a boost controller i turned it to 10psi.

last time i was at the track it was on 6-7 psi only because i was afraid to pop the motor. so the boost increase was from ME via my controller..
BUT now with the 3.27s full boost comes in much sooner in rpm. (full boost at 3200rpm)

i do believe a 3.55 would of bin more ideal if i was going to stick with this setup! but im not, new motor is going in soon.

so,,,, thats why i choose the 3.27.

also i go to track once or so a year. theres a lot of driver error!! lol

ill be running again in nov. i know there's a lot left in the car.

HELL ive only ran it down the track 3 times on Saturday.

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So you hit the limiter with 4.10s?
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yes thats correct ! even if i turned boost up to 10psi when i had the 4.10s on i would of hit rev limiter even sooner in 4th gear .


sooo 4.10s with a 3650. isnt a good idea unless u want to let off b4 traps.

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