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post #1 of 37 Old 07-17-2011, 01:53 PM Thread Starter
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anyone had this problem before?

just noticed my car smoking. started looking around and found an oil leak @ the turbos oil drain. so i took that side down to tighten things up and saw some oil in the downpipe, looked at the exhaust side of turbo and had a small amout in there too. what the hell is goin on here?

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play in the impeller?

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none its brand new never even produced any boost
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if you just fired them up for the first time run it for a little
maybe they got oil on them when they tested them. Use a
oil restrictor too. I pushed oil with mine for the first start up before
i put a oil restrictor in it.

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What size feed and drain line. Does the drain have a low spot in it? I would look into the drain line seen this happen several times before. What oil pump?
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got the on3 kit. no oil restrictor, factory oil pump. drain is exactly vertical and made sure the turbo was well primed before it was ran.
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Is this the On3 brand turbocharger?

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yes it is. still no progress either
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That wouldn't require a restrictor, that is for sure!
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ok after sending pics back and forth with on3 performance they have come to the conclusion it is the oil drain line not having enough fall. I have rerouted it 3 times with no change in the leak, i mean the engine dont even have time to get warm before the oil starts leaking out. im starting to think this is just a bad turbo from the start.

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update...... installed oil restrictor same issue. junky ass vbands. contacted on3 got a rebuild kit. not impressed. also not optimistic
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update!! went back and forth with on3, ordered a rebuild kit. after alot of research and diagrams got into the turbo itself. upon very close inspection under the black o ring seal i found a divet with two cracks or splits in it(center section) took pics and notified company via email...................... no response. what a joke
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how much does a rebuild kit from them run?

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You must have installed the kit wrong LOL. Sorry to hear it man, but you went cheap.
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i run the on3 76mm with a 3/4' drain and 1/4' feed no restrictor stock pump no issues
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Hope you didnt use thread tape. That will ruin whatever percieved warranty you thought you had.

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Wow, I thought I had bad luck only getting 430 miles on mine before it exploded... Yours didn't even make it out of the driveway!

A rebuild kit sounds like a real bad idea, unless you know of a place that can balance the unit afterwards. Although they probably aren't balanced anyway, my new Turbonetics (same journal bearing type) spins twice as long after shutdown compared to the on3 unit. (when it was new of course)

When dealing with China products you are going to have a big failure rate. The USA guys selling the products won't send pallet loads back to China. Option 1, they figure the failure % in the price and eat it. Option 2, they sell as much as they can and stiff the end user and hide behind a LLC as long as they can. Or option on3, figure it in the price and stiff the end user

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got the on3 kit. no oil restrictor, factory oil pump. drain is exactly vertical and made sure the turbo was well primed before it was ran.
theres the problem....

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theres the problem....
Thought only the ball bearing turbos required a restrictor?

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^^^ You're right. They don't need as much oil. Journal bearings should not need restrictors. That's just another line to make it the customers fault and avoid a replacement. If a restrictor was required, don't you think it should be included or at the very least let you know ? I have never put put a restrictor on a journal bearing turbo.
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Thought only the ball bearing turbos required a restrictor?
i dont see any where he has stated which turbo he has???? and if its a journal bearing, why did he put a resistor in it???

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Looks like it was leaking before he put a restrictor in.
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i dont see any where he has stated which turbo he has???? and if its a journal bearing, why did he put a resistor in it???
If you didnt know what turbo he had, why did you respond with this???

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got the on3 kit. no oil restrictor, factory oil pump. drain is exactly vertical and made sure the turbo was well primed before it was ran.

theres the problem...."""


how would you know "theres the problem" if you dont know what turbo he had??

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^^^ You're right. They don't need as much oil. Journal bearings should not need restrictors. That's just another line to make it the customers fault and avoid a replacement. If a restrictor was required, don't you think it should be included or at the very least let you know ? I have never put put a restrictor on a journal bearing turbo.


its a journal 76mm, and it was leaking before and thats what on3 recomend i do.
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and i said exactly the same thing i just quoted to everyone i know
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saw these cracks under the black seal when i started disassembly....... what do you think?
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If you didnt know what turbo he had, why did you respond with this???

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got the on3 kit. no oil restrictor, factory oil pump. drain is exactly vertical and made sure the turbo was well primed before it was ran.

theres the problem...."""


how would you know "theres the problem" if you dont know what turbo he had??
Because he's a On3 installer ... he knows they're junk but will do anything but admit it..
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Because he's a On3 installer ... he knows they're junk but will do anything but admit it..
agreed.
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runing the same 300 shiped to my door 76mm turbo has been on for almost a year know with out any isues same as with my used on3 hotside after i fixed a pinhole in the header and replaced the coupler.
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runing the same 300 shiped to my door 76mm turbo has been on for almost a year know with out any isues same as with my used on3 hotside after i fixed a pinhole in the header and replaced the coupler.
i think the issue is more about how they are handling the situation when bad parts come into play, not so much who has or havent good luck with the setup. if they made it right by seending me another one free from defects i wouldnt really have anything to bitch about
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i think the issue is more about how they are handling the situation when bad parts come into play, not so much who has or havent good luck with the setup. if they made it right by seending me another one free from defects i wouldnt really have anything to bitch about
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All in all you guys can't be upset. You know what you were buying and it bit you in the ass. Were you within the 30 day warranty ?
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finally got a call back yesterday, was told to ship the center section back and it would be replaced new bearings and seals. so i sent it out this morning. after it comes in ill stop bitching. thanks to all that commented and read. ill post again to keep this thread updated
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finally got a call back yesterday, was told to ship the center section back and it would be replaced new bearings and seals. so i sent it out this morning. after it comes in ill stop bitching. thanks to all that commented and read. ill post again to keep this thread updated
Yeah, Mike told me to send my center section back and they would take care of me. He called back said the turbo got hot and I would have to buy another. That's twice they had me ship their crap back and forth and not replacing anything.

I have a feeling they might take care of you since they probably need to shut up a few customers around here lately.

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