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E85 conversion help

Hey guys so I wanna go to e85
I have a 1993 turbo 5.0 h/c/I stock fuel lines, and tank. 40lb injectors, aeromotive reg, 190lb intank vortec trex inline pump. Pmas blowthrough, sct chipped. Car makes 587hp 620ft lbs. Running 15lbs of boost.

So what would I need to run e85?

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First off that's great power for stock lines, and small injs/pump! Your ready for a fuel system at this point!

I'm new to E85, just got my car going on it but I do know it takes 30-40% more fuel. If I were you I would do a fuel system as you have exceeded what most can do on stock lines or what most feel is safe! I would do...
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comp fuel system and a new tune. seems most guys start with 80lb inj's but run out of fuel quick.

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You really need a complete fuel system. If you want to keep the stock computer..then go with the biggest high Impedance injectors you can get...I think 80#. Then somethink like a A1000 or twin external bosch or walboro's with a 8an feed,6an return, and a set of fuel rails.


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FIC makes 120s and 160s in high imp now. Crazy isnt it!

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How much HP can 80lb high impedance give you with e85? Looking for
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hp or rw?
If rw I would def go bigger.

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Definitely rw... can I get more power on 80's with 93 octane or with e85. It's for a dart 363 pt88 turbo car. Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread.

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E85..and that question made me laugh haha! You need 160's for that setup, that car is gonna make crazy power.
Or run 80s and race gas

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I started e85 on the bare essentials...I learned alot through trial and no errors. You will need bigger injectors atleast 120s, but 160s are better. Stock lines are good for about 590rwhp on gas, but u will need bigger lines and injectors for e85. I would run atleast -8 feed and -6 return. E85 needs more volume than gas. U also need a bigger fuel pump.



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Definitely rw... can I get more power on 80's with 93 octane or with e85. It's for a dart 363 pt88 turbo car. Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread.
I think your going to need more than 80's even using gas with that combo.

I'm buiding a 338 with a BWS475 on E85...looking for 800+ at the tire. I'm going to be running 160# injectors,FAST xfi,weldon 2035 pump with a 10an feed/8an return. I also have a pt88 that I may switch to (depends on the rules for the series/class I'm running). Hope to make ~1100rwhp with the pt88.


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80's should be just enough for 750rw. I know of several e85 twin screw cars making 700+rwhp and those cars will use more fuel than a turbo car.
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I think your going to need more than 80's even using gas with that combo.

I'm buiding a 338 with a BWS475 on E85...looking for 800+ at the tire. I'm going to be running 160# injectors,FAST xfi,weldon 2035 pump with a 10an feed/8an return. I also have a pt88 that I may switch to (depends on the rules for the series/class I'm running). Hope to make ~1100rwhp with the pt88.
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I have a 347 w/ a t88, 160lb injectors, weldon 2025(too small but should be good to 900rwhp on e85), accel digital 7 ecu, 10an feed, 8an return. looking to make 1000rwhp.

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Yea I'm not sure if ill do e85 or 93 with race fuel on race days. Either way it will be great power. Here is my thread on turbomustangs.
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Im curious as well. I assume you can still run 93 if needed to limp somewhere? There are only a handfull of stations that sell E85 in my State.

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Why not do E85 and have a small 1 or 2 gallon tank you can switch to in case of emergency or when you go to store the car? There is a diagram on here or TTF how to plumb and set it up...

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Im curious as well. I assume you can still run 93 if needed to limp somewhere? There are only a handfull of stations that sell E85 in my State.
You would just have to have a 93 pump gas tune you could switch to for what ever efi your running. Don't think you can switch back and forth with a blowthrew carb.
I did just this with my old 347 i ran on e85 with a stock computer and sct chip. I just had one tune in the chip for pump 93 gas just in case.


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I had to put some 91 in when I was tuned for e85....I never went into boost or the higher rpms.....granny shifted to the e85 station and filled up.


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E85 is a dying fad. I did a bunch of work to my car so I could run it. Once I got the car all setup, all the pumps disappeared.
If its plentiful in your location and you want to try it, go for it, but it won't be there long...

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Are u serious nascar just picked it up. In my area its still prevalent.


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E85 is a dying fad. I did a bunch of work to my car so I could run it. Once I got the car all setup, all the pumps disappeared.
If its plentiful in your location and you want to try it, go for it, but it won't be there long...
What part of the country to do you live in?

Here in the Cincinnati/N. KY area there are 5-6 local grocery store (Kroger's) gas stations that have e85 pumps. There are several local Thortons gas stations that are going to be adding e85 pumps over the next year also. I don't see e85 going away at all anytime soon. Way to much government "go green" push and money going into it...as well as money and support from all the corn lobbiest and associations.


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Even if...what would be so hard about running race gas or pump gas again?

I would rather have more fuel system than not enuff

That being said there is a bunch of stations in my area (PHX) and I don't see it going anywhere either.

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E85 is a dying fad. but it won't be there long...
I think you are wrong. E85 will become even more popular as time passes. It is renewable resource and environmental friendly. The farmers make more money converting corn into ethenol then feed. More and more American auto makers are creating flexfuel cars and trucks. We have more and more stations selling them here in New York. They are averaging around $3.05 per gallon. I don't think they are a dying fad for sure.

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so for a light h/c/i 76 mm turbo car will i just need a new pump and will 80#s be good enough..? 520 is my max i know its acheiveable on 93 but would it be more effeciant and safe to use E85....? theres a few stations that sell it here and my truck runs alot better on it forsure!

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I have been running e85 thru my stock lines and stock h/c/i with a mp 70 turbo and my 75 pound injectors are at 85 percent duty cycle and I only put down 486. I'm really rich still but I would say go to a 160 pounder

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cool i wanna try it soon...im think im going to stay 93 for now and im also going to use a 70 now
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Back to the top. So I'm building a 347 and would like to make 600-700 on E85. Problem I have is they don't sell E85 anymore in MS. I don't drive car that often and after having a 55 gallon drum of 110 in the garage id rather do the same with E85. Is there any problems with buiding my fuel system up to run e85 for power, and also have a 110 tune as well as 93? I'm looking to have several different power levels for the street.

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I've heard that if you were useing E85 out of the pump you should test it everytime. Is it that critical that you can't just run it right from the pump
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I've heard that if you were useing E85 out of the pump you should test it everytime. Is it that critical that you can't just run it right from the pump
Seems like the wideband would tell you if you got bad gas?

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