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on3 BOV sticking open at all times

im brand new to turbo's. so i have no where else to turn. i have no idea why its stuck open. my front bumper is off and as soon as i turn my car on its wide open. my buddy watched it as i gave it some gas and it still stayed wide open clear through the RPM range. once again i have NO idea why lol. any help is much appriciated!

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What bov is it?


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the "stock" one that comes with the ON3 kit i think its a tial knock off. (no offense lol)
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the "stock" one that comes with the ON3 kit i think its a tial knock off. (no offense lol)
if you disconnect the vacuum line does it close? What vacuum source are you using?
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do you have the vacuum line hooked up? I'm new to the turbo thing myself but my car won't build boost by just reving the engine either. But under a load, like out on the street everything works fine.. If I'm not mistaken it's supposed to stay open until you start putting a load on the engine
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if you disconnect the vacuum line does it close? What vacuum source are you using?
yeah as soon as the lne comes off or the car shuts off it closes. but no matter what while its hooked up and the car is running it wont close. and the BOV and waste gate are both plumbed into a vaccum line on my egr sensor i think. and it feeds right into the throttle body plenum.
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do you have the vacuum line hooked up? I'm new to the turbo thing myself but my car won't build boost by just reving the engine either. But under a load, like out on the street everything works fine.. If I'm not mistaken it's supposed to stay open until you start putting a load on the engine
hmm well then i guess i need to figure out why my tansmission wont go into gear lol TO THE GARAGE!
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Seeing how your WG is very important to keeping your engine alive i would run a dedicated line to it. The blow off valve can share a line. If you are under the hood looking at the valve, when you quickly mash the throttle wide open does the valve move? I am wondering if you have too many things hooked up to 1 source which might cause a big lag in responce. try taking your car for a spin around the block, roll into the throttle till you hear the turbo spooling and then let off to see if the blow off valve "blows off".
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Seeing how your WG is very important to keeping your engine alive i would run a dedicated line to it. The blow off valve can share a line. If you are under the hood looking at the valve, when you quickly mash the throttle wide open does the valve move? I am wondering if you have too many things hooked up to 1 source which might cause a big lag in responce. try taking your car for a spin around the block, roll into the throttle till you hear the turbo spooling and then let off to see if the blow off valve "blows off".
im going to go run a dedicated line for the waste gate and bov right now. ill report back in a few hours thanks for the help!
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As an example if your engine pulls 12inHg of vacuum at idle, you would want the bov to open at 14inHg.


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What port do you have the vacuum line connected to, the side or top?

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i ran my bov from the tree on the firewall and my wastegate from a fitting I welded into the first pipe off of the turbo
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you wanna run the BOV vacuum line post throttle body and have it a dedicated line. if you go to tial's website it will give you a chart of what spring to run compared to how much vacuum your pulling at idle. my BOV stays open at idle, but i have some pretty big cams in my engine too.
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it should be open at idle and close under load/boost
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it should be open at idle and close under load/boost
No, it shouldnt.

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last 2 ebay bovs have been open under vac and closed under load wastegate should be closed and open at boost lvl
and had a turbonetics godzilla and race setup its would be setup closed and street use be set open
i also have a on3 bov would realy think this is a street set up i could be wrong but its how mine have been ran last 3 times

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You simply had your bov setup incorrectly the last three times.

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I just seriously LOL'd.

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call on3 they will tell u how to set it up.
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it really depends on how much vacuum your pulling at idle. for example if your pulling around -22 to -23 in/hg at idle you want a pink spring that pulls -24in/hg. if your pulling -18 to -21 in/hg then you want a unpainted spring that pulls -22 in/hg. if your pulling -14 to -17 in/hg then you want a white spring that pulls -18 in/hg. if your pulling -10 to -13 in/hg then you want the black spring thats pulling -14 in/hg. mine stayed open til i changed out my spring. there are plenty of people out ther that tell you its bad to run with it open and some that tell you it ok. i did a test. i put a feather next to the BOV while at idle and there was no air sucking in. i drove for like 2 months like that.
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You simply had your bov setup incorrectly the last three times.

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the realy funny part is if u call on3 they said the same thing they must be wrong also
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If the MAF (if so equipped) is after the BOV, it really doesnt matter if its open at idle. If the BOV is after the MAF, then you would experience a A/F mixture issue at idle. By setting up the BOV to be closed at idle covers all the bases.

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u are correct the on3 bov are before the intercooler and maf and do not recycle and
yes u would have to use an adjustable bov if were to recirculate the air that the maf has seen
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So what is the PROPER way to route your vacuum lines for the BOV and wastegate?

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So what is the PROPER way to route your vacuum lines for the BOV and wastegate?
bov is manifold vac. wastegate is turbo port or make a port in the pipe in front of the turbo
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bov is manifold vac. wastegate is turbo port or make a port in the pipe in front of the turbo
Im sure you meant after the turbo.

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Im sure you meant after the turbo.
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