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post #1 of 28 Old 08-18-2010, 07:46 PM Thread Starter
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Let's see some 5.0's w the On3 Turbo Kit and Stock Long Blocks

I know I've seen a few posts here and there but I can't find any with dyno sheets, numbers or videos.

I built a 331 for 92 hatch installed the On3 kit, set it to 5 psi and got a custom tune. It made 497 rwhp for a few miles and then broke. I am thinking of installing a junkyard stock long block with head studs, 9333 gaskets, an old Typhoon EFI intake and setting it on kill while I wait for Woody to build me a Dart Block stroker.

What will the aforementioned stock long block, On 3 Turbo kit car make?


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I'd rather install a Exploder long block but the salvage yards that I've called in PHX want $1,500! NFW! Guess I am stuck with a 87-92 Mustang long block for $400, studs for $100, gaskets $50. Can I make 450-475 rwhp?


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There is a local guy by me that has an 86' completely stock from intake to oil pan, on3 kit MP70mm running 9psi. I want to say he made 422rwhp. With an intake and a few more psi im sure you could do it. Heres a couple vids he posted, one on the dyno and one at the track

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRrFEp5Nry0


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Keep in mind this thing is tuned VERY safe, low timing and alot of fuel.

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currently putting this together with on3 kit, ad on3 rails and doing the mock up for the cai intakes on it, and another car


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I'd rather install a Exploder long block but the salvage yards that I've called in PHX want $1,500! NFW! Guess I am stuck with a 87-92 Mustang long block for $400, studs for $100, gaskets $50. Can I make 450-475 rwhp?
Visit Car-Parts.com, they have them in PHX for as low as $500.

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Visit Car-Parts.com, they have them in PHX for as low as $500.
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Just checked out car-parts.com. Wow, awesome resource, found several Explorer long blocks with under 100k miles for less than 800. A few for $500.

What's the most desirable year/years?

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Just checked out car-parts.com. Wow, awesome resource, found several Explorer long blocks with under 100k miles for less than 800. A few for $500.

What's the most desirable year/years?
i wouldnt...they have hyper pistons

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i wouldnt...they have hyper pistons
mine is making 470 and is fine..

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i wouldnt...they have hyper pistons
Yes they do...and with a decent tune they'll have no issues outlasting the stock block.

What I would do however is swap out the stock weak springs for a set of aftermarket's. It will allow you to run more than 5k RPM with boost without valve float.
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mine is making 470 and is fine..
some will, some wont tho..and buyying used exploder motors, not on my top ten list..most of them are getting parted cause of cash for clunkers

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some will, some wont tho..and buyying used exploder motors, not on my top ten list..most of them are getting parted cause of cash for clunkers
None of the cash for clunkers have salvageable motors as they pored a liquid hardening agent in the engines to render them unsellable.
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None of the cash for clunkers have salvageable motors as they pored a liquid hardening agent in the engines to render them unsellable.
what a waste for us mustang guys!!
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None of the cash for clunkers have salvageable motors as they pored a liquid hardening agent in the engines to render them unsellable.
not all of them tho....some didnt get that treatment..some did

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not all of them tho....some didnt get that treatment..some did
Thets just they didn't, then where lies the issue? Your going in a circle man.

Short take off video... nothing really fun. You can just hear the open down pipe and turbo.

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Thets just they didn't, then where lies the issue? Your going in a circle man.

Short take off video... nothing really fun. You can just hear the open down pipe and turbo.

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really? i wont go thru it again. but just to explain myself, i would not use one. i have had 3 sets of gt40p heads destroyed because of the treatment...but then alot that wasnt ...so what do you do...take your chances, or just not even #### with it. only used gt40p i would buy, is one i can hear running, or has not been in the junk yard.

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really? i wont go thru it again. but just to explain myself, i would not use one. i have had 3 sets of gt40p heads destroyed because of the treatment...but then alot that wasnt ...so what do you do...take your chances, or just not even #### with it. only used gt40p i would buy, is one i can hear running, or has not been in the junk yard.
I sounds to me like you are buying from the wrong places then. All of the engine were "supposed" to get the treatment...and NONE of the vehicles were "supposed" to be resold. If they did resell parts off of them, there would be huge legal recourse. Let's not forget too that many of those engines listed on car-parts come with a small running warranty.
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I worked at a ford dealer during the cash for clunkers. All cars that came through were supposed to get that, then they were sent off to be destroyed. You were NOT allowed to take any parts off the vehicle, and they were not to be parted out. The liquid was silica something, basically liquid glass. After you drain the oil and pour it in, it typically took like 15 seconds before the motor locked slam up. It shouldnt turn freely, so if it does, then the engine either didnt have the stuff put in it, or whoever did it was an idiot and didnt put enough in, or didnt run the engine after they put it in. If you are buying from someone who has cash for clunker cars and they are parting them out then like millhouse said, thats a huge legal issue

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I sounds to me like you are buying from the wrong places then. All of the engine were "supposed" to get the treatment...and NONE of the vehicles were "supposed" to be resold. If they did resell parts off of them, there would be huge legal recourse. Let's not forget too that many of those engines listed on car-parts come with a small running warranty.


funny, they was sold to local junk yards where you go pick your own parts...all the CC was painted pink, but people was still tearing into them and taking the cylinder heads.....ask me how i know

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currently putting this together with on3 kit, ad on3 rails and doing the mock up for the cai intakes on it, and another car

Some details on that CAI setup when you get it all set up would be awesome.

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Some details on that CAI setup when you get it all set up would be awesome.
well i had a interest thread up, but then they locked it cause im advertising...funny i work for on3, but i cant make posts like that..weird

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Rob owns gearheadz auto, he helps me with a lot of tech questions and also does product support/installs. Technically doesnt work for me or on the payroll

Im going to start that thread back up for the cai setups that robs been working on to discuss further
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clean setup, I like that intake design

Photo of a customer car at mustang week, same upper/lower, very clean car as well

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Once I get some time & post up some pic's of the finished product!

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