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4.10's with my turbo

ok so i take it 4.10's are gonna suck, with the turbo. i havent gotten it tuned yet. so dont really know. but i guess i'll be soon swaping them out. to 3.23's or something like that

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A 3.27 rear gear is IMO the best turbo gear. Another option would be 3.55 rear.


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yea thats what i'll switch to after the tune. right now money funds are getting low!!!!! but for few weeks you think 4.10's be ok. i guess spool time is gonna be really late.
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no, tune it with the gears in it.. its changing the loading effect on the car. or seen if they will check the tune on it, after you swap the gears. most tuners will touch up a tune. and yes, you will hate the 4.10's. 3.27's or 3.55 if running a taller tire.

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I have 4.10's its not that bad. Turbo lag doesn't feel so pronounced when you have a V8. My turbo spools late in 1 and 2 but once i hit 3 it comes on hard.
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To each their own, I personally can't stand 4.10s in any combo I have ever driven in regards to Mustangs.

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I hate my 3:73s witha turbo and a 26" tire. As stated above, my motor seems to outrun the turbo in 1st and 2nd, but will feel normal in 3rd and up. I will definetely be going to a 3:27 when I can get um swapped out.

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I wouldnt even try to tune it with those gears still in

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I was thinking of this the other day. Even though with a 4.10 the engine is going to be doing the brunt of the work out of the hole I wonder if its faster at the track. It may depend specifically on the combo. A 331 twin wont act like a stock 4.6 single.


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just get a nasty stalled auto setup!!
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ok so i take it 4.10's are gonna suck, with the turbo. i havent gotten it tuned yet. so dont really know. but i guess i'll be soon swaping them out. to 3.23's or something like that
3.27 's been tested over and over...

I ran the best with a 3.27 and a 28 inch tire if you've got motor behind it.

otherwise 3.27 and a 26 inch tire.. way way faster then a 3.73 on the same tune.
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im gonna get it tuned with 4.10's then swapp to 3.27 in few weeks. i just wanna get it running. i'll take it back for a touch-up tune then later.
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im gonna get it tuned with 4.10's then swapp to 3.27 in few weeks. i just wanna get it running. i'll take it back for a touch-up tune then later.
Why waste time and money .. you know it wont be right ...

its like getting a tune when its in the 80's or 90's and 80 % humidity ... whats the point ?


Be patient .. swap the gears... have it tuned as the weather is getting nicer... then have at it.
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dannggg. so the gears are gonna hurt me that bad.... geezzz this blows!!!!!! what a freakin money pit. so if i change the gears out after a tune. its going to change my tune that much??? just the gears. im assuming the load will be different.
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All I can say is I hate my 3.73 and turbo. You not gonna enjoy boost with 4.10 as it will boost and shift time in less then second lol or run 28" tall tire all the time.

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All I can say is I hate my 3.73 and turbo. You not gonna enjoy boost with 4.10 as it will boost and shift time in less then second lol or run 28" tall tire all the time.

even in 3rd and 4th gear???????
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if you get tuned with 4:10s and switch to 3:27 I would be hesitant to run it very hard. It could cost you, especially if you have a stock motor

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even in 3rd and 4th gear???????
3rd gear is almost useless but I can run at 4th gear spinning hehe. Mostly I spin at 120 when 20 psi screaming lol. But you at 8 psi might have fun with 3rd.

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would getting a retune after different gears be a big concern. even when the tune is gonna be on the rich side???
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I went from 3.27 to 3.55 and feel like I have more TQ with the 3.55 than the 3.27 . But feel the 3.27 is more comfortable for everyday driving . I also think the 4.10 w/turbo would be like driving a 4x4 in 4 wheel low all the time

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i was about to do the same thing as you. turbo ,4:10s and then a clean up tune when i figure out what tire and gear i want to use. i hoped a 28 inch tall tire would help all the spool/gear issues.

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i was about to do the same thing as you. turbo ,4:10s and then a clean up tune when i figure out what tire and gear i want to use. i hoped a 28 inch tall tire would help all the spool/gear issues.

so a take it you are keeping the 4.10s well yea im going to keep mine for rest of this year. get new gears over winter then retune next year. maybe i will like the 4.10, maybe not. but at this point i just want to drive the damn thing. haha.
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me too.

plus im not racing everyday. i may drive my car 5 times a month. so im not so worried about shifting into 5th in the quarter(which is what i think everone is trying to warn you about) but next year im worried about that. ill re tune when i get my c4 put in and the axles, spool and yes different gears.

let me know how you make out. ill do the same.

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yea my car will never see the track. just street use.
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all of you that say he needs to get it re tuned after he swtiches gears can you tell him why? Just tell your tuner your plan and I'm sure he can account for that if he's worth his weight.
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Is my car doing it's best with the 4.10's? They tell me no, but with 28" slicks at the track and 315 drag radials for the street, I have no complaints. I'm a hard headed SOB, I want to run 10's on the stock longblock at full weight in my convertible with the wrong f'ing gear and a 5-speed. Not too many stock longblock B-head Cobra's in the 10's, let alone a convertible with a 5-speed. If I get close I don't think it would be fair to say that the 4.10's hurt it that bad. 11.7's @ almost 122mph without the 2-step or electric downpipe cut-out that's on it now. We'll find out this Wednesday night if I can get close to the goal. I also am going to data-log the boost through all the gears and see how much boost it really makes in each gear? Here is a vid at the track with the 28" slicks. (note the slight wheel correction after the 2nd gear shift!!)

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I think most of us saying not to run 4.10s are referring to pushrod motor'd cars and not 2V/4V cars. After all don't you at the very least have more rpms to play with along with more need for some low end grunt?

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I had 4.10's in my turbo'd 91 GT convertible. It was a heavy car with a built AOD, and I'm not gonna lie to you and tell you it wasn't hella fun on the street! It was a freakin' blast to drive around, but it revved so quickly it wasn't really letting the turbo work. I switched to 3.55's and went quicker and faster in the 1/8th with the 3.55's because they were letting the motor load and the turbo work. Plus wheelspin wasn't as big an issue, but the 4.10's were loads of fun in the heavy car.

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i got the car back from jpc on friday. 4.10s and turbo is awesome.

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Cool. Give us some info on how it drives if you can. I have a 414w thats getting a 88mm turbo for about 12#s. It too has 4.10s, but i'm gonna be running a 325/50/15 dr. Weekend driver.
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i like it alot. it gets fast boost and pulls real hard. i could only tune 6 psi because my wastegate is too small. car made 400hp 430tq. its nice not have to down shift to get the car moving

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i have 4.10's right now also and planning to go turbo pretty soon.....Is the drive that bad as people say with the gear or would it be better to go witht he 3.27's???

also what size a/r's are you running on the 60-1?

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