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on3 turbo question

Hey I was looking at the on3 turbo kit for my 97 gt (2v) I have been reading that you can do it yourself and bolt the kit on : My question is what else would I need to buy in order for the kit to perform correctly ? fuel pump, chip, tuner, etc. etc. ?

any info on a checklist would be appreciated


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k member, a arms, coil overs, fuel pump, injectors, maf, tuner, then get it tuned.

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bwaite, thanks.... didn't know I had to get k members and a arms....dayum

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Id like to know where a first bolt to last bolt install write up is for the ON3 kit. Ive heard both sides 50/50 of good/bad reviews. But the price is a tease because you still need a bigger fuel system and tubular K-member.

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So far this is my list, 2001 Cobra 4v;

On3 kit: 1800
new fuel filter:30
fuel injectors 42lb:180 (used)
MAF:100(used)
tuner:379+ dyno time
qa1 kit:560+ install
camber/caster plates:160
lightning IAT sensor threaded/harness:56
boost gauge:50
wideband:180
gauge pod:30(used)
Drop-In Sensor Weld-On Flange:50
fuel pump:55 (used)
NGK TR6 Spark Plugs:25.00

Misc Items;
RTV Sealant
Air Breather
90 Degree Radiator Hose(lower)
Change of Oil and Coolant
Air Filter 4"

Some of these items you may not need for your build, but this is what my setup requires. With a turbo or supercharger you NEED to buy fuel/air parts. It costs $$ to go fast no matter what route you go.
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Dont forget plenty of copper rtv so the v-bands wont leak.

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As far as a first bolt to last bolt write up there are a couple threads aroumd that have a lot of info but most ppl don't have the time to do a write up like that. I searched threads and asked questions before buying my On3 kit so I new what to expect.
The kit is a bolt on kit but will take some time and patience. A couple of the pipes are tough to get a clamp on or to get a good seal but it can be done
The kit as almost any turbo kit does req tubular front suspension for the kit to work but even w that factored in the price is good for the power that can be made.
Feel free to ask any and all questions before purchasing. That's what I did and I am very happy with my kit.

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Ponydown does not require a k-member kit.It works with your factory one.

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Ponydown does not require a k-member kit.It works with your factory one.
http://ponydown.com/newcatalog/index...products_id=97

I see they have two set ups for a 4.6. A stock height kit that lets you keep your stock K-member and a kit for those who are lowered. They recommend the AJE k-member.
"We also just came out with a similar design kit that can be used for lowered cars. You just have to install a aje k-member."

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Id like to know where a first bolt to last bolt install write up is for the ON3 kit. Ive heard both sides 50/50 of good/bad reviews. But the price is a tease because you still need a bigger fuel system and tubular K-member.
i have one on my site.. just have not did a complete step by step. i will with the next one.


with getting every thing, it ends up being just about 5k out the door.
(with the upgraded mp70) on a completely stock 2v car.


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Ponydown does not require a k-member kit.It works with your factory one.
and no ground clearance.

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i have one on my site.. just have not did a complete step by step. i will with the next one.


with getting every thing, it ends up being just about 5k out the door.
(with the upgraded mp70) on a completely stock 2v car.
You mean suspension+fuel system+kit+tune? Seems high. But you also mentioned the upgraded kit.

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and no ground clearance.
WTF are you trying to say.Maybe I missed it but dont really see whats funny about it.

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The hot side goes under the stock K-member. So if you are lowered this might not make it out if the shop if you have to drive over a piece of paper on the floor. Its funny because its a non-option for lowered guys. And most guys that mod their Mustangs usually do that long before a turbo kt.

Look here at their pipe routing
http://ponydown.com/newcatalog/index...products_id=97

I just sent an e-mail to Pony Down inquiring of pictures of the hot side through an aftermarket K. I'll post them if they get back to me.

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That makes sense.That is why it says this.......* Not recommended for lowered cars *

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You mean suspension+fuel system+kit+tune? Seems high. But you also mentioned the upgraded kit.
seems high? lets add it up then!
On3 2v 99-04 kit
mp70 on3 kit 1841.50 (i sell them at 10% off with the install)
injectors 300.00
maf 200.00
focus pump 200.00
plugs 20.00
k member kit (shipped) 600.00(some times it 580, when i can get a better deal on it)

thats 3161.50 !

now the install pricing.
front suspenion 250.00
fuel pump install 100.00
turbo kit install 600.00(includes all welding needed brackets made and so on)
tuning 600.00 (this includes the chip)(curretly have to outside source this, and pricing can come down when/if i get a dyno in house)

now thats $1550.00

total of $4714.50 before taxs. ohio taxs 318.23 for a grand total of $5032.73 and thats with out a air filter or catch can setup. so you tell me how thats seems high?

and i have other options for this kit aswell. (heat blankets, powder coating the piping , catch can setup's custom turbo inlet systems(coming soon) and so on)

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WTF are you trying to say.Maybe I missed it but dont really see whats funny about it.
it dont work with lowered cars... and thats about the first thing most do with there stang . thats why i find it funny

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it dont work with lowered cars... and thats about the first thing most do with there stang . thats why i find it funny

Not everybody has a lowered car.

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seems high? lets add it up then!
On3 2v 99-04 kit
mp70 on3 kit 1841.50 (i sell them at 10% off with the install)
injectors 300.00
maf 200.00
focus pump 200.00
plugs 20.00
k member kit (shipped) 600.00(some times it 580, when i can get a better deal on it)

thats 3161.50 !

now the install pricing.
front suspenion 250.00
fuel pump install 100.00
turbo kit install 600.00(includes all welding needed brackets made and so on)
tuning 600.00 (this includes the chip)(curretly have to outside source this, and pricing can come down when/if i get a dyno in house)

now thats $1550.00

total of $4714.50 before taxs. ohio taxs 318.23 for a grand total of $5032.73 and thats with out a air filter or catch can setup. so you tell me how thats seems high?

and i have other options for this kit aswell. (heat blankets, powder coating the piping , catch can setup's custom turbo inlet systems(coming soon) and so on)
I want to know why you would do the upgrade kit but not give the poor fella an air filter? And I didn't know what your hours and charge rates were. So parts alone vs the price of 5k is a bit of a difference. And its kind of odd that you'd draw the line with lowered cars. Once its on a lift and the k-member is in, don't you have enough room?

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Not everybody has a lowered car.
no not every one... but 98% of the ones i see, are. and when they come in with a stock ride height, 96% of the time, they dont leave with one

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I want to know why you would do the upgrade kit but not give the poor fella an air filter? And I didn't know what your hours and charge rates were. So parts alone vs the price of 5k is a bit of a difference. And its kind of odd that you'd draw the line with lowered cars. Once its on a lift and the k-member is in, don't you have enough room?
air filter ? Some people dont want one

and what do you mean i draw the line with lowered cars? im saying the one pony down kit dont work with lowered cars (the one that does work with the stock k member)... and all of the kits i have installed, have a air filter on it and are on lowered cars. but if the car is lowered with a 2v kit, you have to run the bump steer kit aswell, and other options include camber caster plates and a clutch install and so on. excuse me if i gave you just the basic pricing needed to get the car up and running with a kit on it? most leave for around 5500 or so with catch cans, camber caster plates, and a air filter. your the one sitting behind the pc telling me my price is too high, and "i draw the line at lowered cars"... please show me where i said that one other the just now. and not all of the kit installs have had me tune them, or do the suspension installs and so on. i need to know what is on the car, and options the customer wants or needs before i can give a solid price.

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