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post #1 of 46 Old 06-02-2010, 08:44 PM Thread Starter
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Who's using the turbo that comes with the on3 kit or upgrading to the master power?

Just wondering how many people are using the cheap turbo that comes with the on3 kit and how many people are doing the upgrade to the master power?


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I am using the on3 turbo. I am going to only be boosting 5.8psi and at that level its barely even spooling the turbo because of how big the turbo is.

If I was running like 20 psi I would consider an upgrade. Chad (on3 guy) runs the on3 turbo in his car as well.

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Yeah I built a 306 with JE pistons and scat rods with some gt40's and explorer intake, stock cam with 1.7s and am going to buy the on3 kit within the next week or so. I want to make around 550 at the wheels so I may just upgrade to the master power. I'm still on the fence. Either that or run with the one it comes with and then get a precision 67mm later.

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Just go with a MP T76 upgrade in the on3 kit
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Im using the On3 turbo. Stock bottom end with aluminum heads, b cam and victor intake i made 522 on 11-12 psi. That turbo is rated to I believe 650+ hp, which is plenty for your goals

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Is the on3 turbo a good turbo?
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Is the on3 turbo a good turbo?
Well it made good power, and I've probly put 200+ miles on it with no issues so far. It's basically the same thing as the MPT70 from what chad told me....I know ALOT of guys are running it with the On3 kit and havnt heard anything negative about it yet

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I went with the MP .70 just because its a name brand. Nothing against the On3 turbo but i figure maybe the master power will last a little longer. I think either way is a good choice.

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There is no need for the T76 upgrade on a stock block 306. Maybe if it was going on a 347 then possibly but the T70 is more than enough turbo to split these blocks in 2. I would like to make as close to 550 as possible. I made 521 with a Paxton Novi 1220 on a stock block 306 with ####ty hypereutectics in it so I think the turbo will put even less stress on everything. But that seems like low #'s at only 522 with 12psi and those heads/intake and cam combo. I know all dyno's are different though as well. I may just order it with the on3 turbo and if it takes a #### then I'll buy a precision unit.

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There is no need for the T76 upgrade on a stock block 306. Maybe if it was going on a 347 then possibly but the T70 is more than enough turbo to split these blocks in 2. I would like to make as close to 550 as possible. I made 521 with a Paxton Novi 1220 on a stock block 306 with ####ty hypereutectics in it so I think the turbo will put even less stress on everything. But that seems like low #'s at only 522 with 12psi and those heads/intake and cam combo. I know all dyno's are different though as well. I may just order it with the on3 turbo and if it takes a #### then I'll buy a precision unit.
It's tuned on the safe side. fuel is at 10.8 and total timing is at 18 degrees. I know it could squeeze alot more out of it, but would like the stock block to hold together for a couple years until I build a dart block. Car made 285 N/A, so 250hp more to the wheels with 12psi aint bad IMO


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Using the stock On3 turbo here. No complains at all though i've heard that the MasterPower turbo spools a little faster.

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I upgrade to Mp T 70, I'm happy with it.

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Mp t-70 here for no other reason then a brand name and good reviews

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Does anyone know if you can order the kit with no turbo at all? I may buy a Precision 67mm turbo to run instead of either of the options that on3 has.

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Does anyone know if you can order the kit with no turbo at all? I may buy a Precision 67mm turbo to run instead of either of the options that on3 has.
Q - Will you part out or only sell certain parts out of the kit?
A - No, we only sell kits complete but we will sell individual turbochargers

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Does anyone know if you can order the kit with no turbo at all? I may buy a Precision 67mm turbo to run instead of either of the options that on3 has.
Im pretty sure chad offers precision turbos as well

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Does anyone know if you can order the kit with no turbo at all? I may buy a Precision 67mm turbo to run instead of either of the options that on3 has.
You can now upgrade or buy Precision turbo from chad, will cost alot more then mp.

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You can now upgrade or buy Precision turbo from chad, will cost alot more then mp.
Yeah a guy locally has a brand new Precision PT-67 I was going to buy but I may just run the one that comes with the kit and see how it does.

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You could just buy the kit with the standard turbo then sell it before you use it. You should be able to get a few hundred for it. The previous owner of my car put the on3 kit on the car. I have different goals than he did, so before I even drove the car, I sold the on3 turbo and put a PT76GTSH on the car along with a host of other goodies.
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You could just buy the kit with the standard turbo then sell it before you use it. You should be able to get a few hundred for it. The previous owner of my car put the on3 kit on the car. I have different goals than he did, so before I even drove the car, I sold the on3 turbo and put a PT76GTSH on the car along with a host of other goodies.
That is exactly what I am thinking about doing. I think the PT67 would be an ideal turbo for a little budget 306.

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I upgraded to the mp 76. I put it on the car and started it after waiting for the turbo a month, it didnt spin when I stared it up. I had to send it back. So if you your not trying to squeeze every last horsepower out of it then I would just use the on3 or supply your own. Mp is nothing special and they said they have been getting alot back to be fixed. THIS IS BY ANYWAY NOT ON3s FAULT SO LETS NOT GO HATING ON THEM FOR MASTERPOWERS B.S. MY ON3 KIT FIT GREAT AND I AM VERY HAPPY WITH IT.
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Does anyone know if you can order the kit with no turbo at all? I may buy a Precision 67mm turbo to run instead of either of the options that on3 has.
My friend got his kit without the turbo, -$250.

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My friend got his kit without the turbo, -$250.
Very cool. If that's the case I will go that route. I am going to pick up a Precision PT67 with the ball bearing upgrade I believe. Should be a sweet little turbo for a street car.

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I upgraded to the mp 76. I put it on the car and started it after waiting for the turbo a month, it didnt spin when I stared it up. I had to send it back. So if you your not trying to squeeze every last horsepower out of it then I would just use the on3 or supply your own. Mp is nothing special and they said they have been getting alot back to be fixed. THIS IS BY ANYWAY NOT ON3s FAULT SO LETS NOT GO HATING ON THEM FOR MASTERPOWERS B.S. MY ON3 KIT FIT GREAT AND I AM VERY HAPPY WITH IT.
I upgraded to the MP-76 with the .96 a/r on my 4 valve kit. When I first started the car, the comperssor wheel would barely even spin. After letting the car run for a little bit and driving, the wheel seemed to spin better. It spins well enough now that after I shut off the car, the wheel will still spin for about 15 seconds.
On the other hand, this turbo seems to take FOREVER to spool. My car doesnt seem to start making power until around 5500 rpm, takes forever to spool back up when I change gears while racing, and it is having a hard time making over 19psi. I am checking over everything else before I blame it on the turbo.
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Is your Master Power impeller making contact? I would really check that and call master power right away so if there needs to be any sort of warranty work, they will be aware of it. They are good people and will fix the issue if there is one.


On the topic of the thread, I have ran our On 3 Performance 70mm turbo on my daily for over 2 years and maybe 11,000 miles now. Could be more, I would have to look back on the exact time we put it on. Its been ran hard and its still on the car driving daily today. Its a good unit and will last if you use our oil setup/drain its designed with.
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We are a Precision dealer as well as mentioned above but wanted to confirm that. We stock their 67mm unit right now, cast wheel, journal bearing which is rate around our 70mm or master powers 70mm turbo.
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We are a Precision dealer as well as mentioned above but wanted to confirm that. We stock their 67mm unit right now, cast wheel, journal bearing which is rate around our 70mm or master powers 70mm turbo.
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Is the 76mm better for a 351w?
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Pm sent on the upgrade cost

As for the 351, what power are you trying to make? Depending on that I would choose the turbo for your application. PM me if you would like and I can forward my thoughts along with pricing
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Master power did take care of me and the turbo is back and on. Going to the dyno on Wednesday. I guess we will see how much the the mp 76 will make.
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Good to hear, Manny is a good guy and does take care of anything if there is an issue. Best of luck and hope to see some good numbers
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I am running the On3 Turbo. @ 10psi i made 504hp/510tq on a completely stock 3v
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Is your Master Power impeller making contact? I would really check that and call master power right away so if there needs to be any sort of warranty work, they will be aware of it. They are good people and will fix the issue if there is one.
Well, I am glad that I waited on blaming the turbo for the slow spool . I think some of the problems that I am having is the exhaust leaks with the kit. I can reseal the leaks at the V-band & ball socket on hte exhaust manifold, and the car seems to spool alot better. But the leaks always come back and spool time suffers.
Once I fix this issue, by relocating some piping, I am going to try to run 19-25psi with this MP 76 on my 4 valve.
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Well, I am glad that I waited on blaming the turbo for the slow spool . I think some of the problems that I am having is the exhaust leaks with the kit. I can reseal the leaks at the V-band & ball socket on hte exhaust manifold, and the car seems to spool alot better. But the leaks always come back and spool time suffers.
Once I fix this issue, by relocating some piping, I am going to try to run 19-25psi with this MP 76 on my 4 valve.
Let me know how much boost and power you end up making. I will be trying to max mine tomarrow.
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have these kits started including a mounting bracket for the turbo yet? That was the main downfall for me. I knew a guy with an on3 kit and he said the welds started breaking because there was no bracket for the turbo. Also the same reason why all the V bands leak

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