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How to make wastegate shut up!

Been running my turbo kit for almost 6 months and after watching videos of my car at the track my w/g sounds like a huge exhaust leak. All you can hear when the car reaches boost is ppppppsssssssssssssssss!!!!

There must be some way I can route the w/g back into the exhaust.





As you can see in the pic using a muffler would just hang down to low.

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I made a orange dot where my wastegate is mounted. This picture shows the kit I SHOULD have purchased.

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You could either run a long pipe to your down pipe or put your waste gate closer to the turbo and run a small pipe to dp


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I feel your pain, I am gonna route my wastegate back to my DP.

Just gonna run the pipe under the k-member and stuff

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No need to run it back to the DP. I just made custom mufflers for mine. You can't even hear tham now.
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I dont have room for a muffler, look in the pic above and you can see. I also dont have a way to weld the bypass pipe back to the dp. I dont see how this can be done with the pipes off the car?

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your best option would be to relocated it closer to the turbine intake flange, its to far away as it is.... this would also make it easier to plumb into the downpipe
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I dont have room for a muffler, look in the pic above and you can see.
You have room. You turn the WG 180* facing up and than make up the muffler piping. I did the same thing on my setup.
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I always hear people talking abotu mufflers, but I never see the mufflers..

Lets see some pics of those mufflers

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I posted some pictures in this thread. I go by underpsi68: http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/in...c=120760.0;all

Some of the pictures come up, some don't for some reason.

The mufflers are cheap and easy to make up.
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Yea, better yet how about a video using the muffler method?


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You have room. You turn the WG 180* facing up and than make up the muffler piping. I did the same thing on my setup.
Im a little hesitant to face the wastegate exhaust upwards towards the hood, would this cause any problems?

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Im a little hesitant to face the wastegate exhaust upwards towards the hood, would this cause any problems?
Not if you're going to route it back into the DP

I wouldn't turn it upwards and leave it open tho.

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Im a little hesitant to face the wastegate exhaust upwards towards the hood, would this cause any problems?
Who the heck said anything about facing the WG upwards???? Did you even look at the pictures in the link I posted????

If you did aim it upwards you could just cut a hole out of the hood and it wouldn't be a problem than.

You want a video? Maybe I should just come over there and fab everything up for free also.

Also why in the world did you move the WG location? Where it was originally in the pictures was a much better location. Not only would the WG work better there but than you could just fab up the muffler and aim it right down like I did on the pass side WG on mine (in pictures).

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Um... slow down and read.

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You have room. You turn the WG 180* facing UP and than make up the muffler piping. I did the same thing on my setup.

Second, the link you posted in the turbo forums shows no pictures.

Third, why yes I already requested a video. Did you bother to read
jturmanator Yea, better yet how about a video using the muffler method?

Fourth, I didnt move my wastegate. If you slow down long enough to look you can see that the flange it is vented down, the only other option would be to completely reverse the w/g leaving it venting up.

The kit in the second picture is not mine man! I was trying to give everyone an idea of how far the piping would need to be ran from where my w/g is located now.

Now drive your ass down here and fab mine up to match what is in the second picture

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I dont have room for a muffler, look in the pic above and you can see. I also dont have a way to weld the bypass pipe back to the dp.
well thats the ONLY 2 choices there are lol

any local exhaust shops that could help ya out?? it wouldnt be hard to fab one up and like stated earlier it would be in a MUCH better spot then where it is now.

Just be careful not to have the bypass pipe too restrictive /sharp bends or you will end up with boost creep

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I realize there are only two options. Looks like I need to relocate the w/g closer to the turbo and either reroute it back into the exhaust or install a muffler.

Atleast this way it wouldnt scrape up beer cans off the street.

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I was surprised at how quiet my gate is now with the muffler installed,lol! Used stangjumpers pics for reference to make it. Thanks man!! Have less than $20 in it also.


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Um... slow down and read.

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You have room. You turn the WG 180* facing UP and than make up the muffler piping. I did the same thing on my setup.

Second, the link you posted in the turbo forums shows no pictures.

Third, why yes I already requested a video. Did you bother to read
jturmanator Yea, better yet how about a video using the muffler method?

Fourth, I didnt move my wastegate. If you slow down long enough to look you can see that the flange it is vented down, the only other option would be to completely reverse the w/g leaving it venting up.

The kit in the second picture is not mine man! I was trying to give everyone an idea of how far the piping would need to be ran from where my w/g is located now.

Now drive your ass down here and fab mine up to match what is in the second picture

Most of the pictures show up for me???

I may be slow but I am not stupid LOL. I understand FULLY how your WG is now. Like I said "You have room. You turn the WG 180* facing up and than make up the muffler piping. I did the same thing on my setup". That would be to face your WG opening upward AND than use a 180* piping somehow to face it DOWN!!! That's what my pictures show.

So maybe you should SLOW DOWN and think about what you are saying before you say it.

If you need a video on how to use the "muffler method", maybe you should be looking at another hobby. It isn't rocket science. LMAO
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I was surprised at how quiet my gate is now with the muffler installed,lol! Used stangjumpers pics for reference to make it. Thanks man!! Have less than $20 in it also.
Worth the effect huh.

My 2 WG mufflers cost me about $80 as I had to buy stainless 90*'s as that is all the local speed shop had for sale. It will never rust but was a B ITC H to drill all those holes in. I broke a few drill bits and took a lnog time to drill them.

I have a few orders pending locally LOL
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WTF! Do me a favor and go take your stang and jump off a cliff.

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Most of the pictures show up for me???

I may be slow but I am not stupid LOL. I understand FULLY how your WG is now. Like I said "You have room. You turn the WG 180* facing up and than make up the muffler piping. I did the same thing on my setup". That would be to face your WG opening upward AND than use a 180* piping somehow to face it DOWN!!! That's what my pictures show.

So maybe you should SLOW DOWN and think about what you are saying before you say it.

If you need a video on how to use the "muffler method", maybe you should be looking at another hobby. It isn't rocket science. LMAO


NO pics show up for me either... not even one !!!

Im pretty sure he wanted the vid so he could HEAR how well the setup really works, not a how to vid lol

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Maybe he can send me a full 2 hr Instuctional DVD on how to install a w/g muffler!

Seriously, I appreciate the help.


Wait, here's an idea, maybe I should just weld the w/g hole shut.

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hehe

Only 2 of those pics showed up for me as well and i'm registered there too. He gives a nicely detailed instruction on how to construct the muffler so you gotta give him props for that. It's a good looking muffler too.

I want mine either piped back in or muffled but i'm not sure how i'm going to do it yet - same Quicktime kit that you have.

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Maybe he can send me a full 2 hr Instuctional DVD on how to install a w/g muffler!

Seriously, I appreciate the help.


Wait, here's an idea, maybe I should just weld the w/g hole shut.
You would probably need a video on how to watch the video and you still would need help LOL.

SERIOUSLY I did offer you some help and ideas. I don't know if you read the thread I posted or were just looking for pictures. There is a lot of info I posted in that thread.

A video is NOT NEEDED as there is NOTHING to hear. It is DEAD SILENT. That was also posted in that thread.

With that being said I am going to drive my car off a cliff and not respond to any of your threads again.

Good luck.
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Did you have any creep issues with it at all?

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No need to run it back to the DP. I just made custom mufflers for mine. You can't even hear tham now.
StangJumper how long did you make the muffler? i like your idea and i will probly do the same thing for mine just need to know how long to make it.
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I deffinetly want to try this. I read your posts on turbomustangs but could not see the pics either. Is there anyway you could repost them? I pretty well understand from your explanation the only thing I don't get is, is the whole thing packed from the wastegate to the end? Is the end welded shut? Thanks for the help!
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hehe

Only 2 of those pics showed up for me as well and i'm registered there too. He gives a nicely detailed instruction on how to construct the muffler so you gotta give him props for that. It's a good looking muffler too.

I want mine either piped back in or muffled but i'm not sure how i'm going to do it yet - same Quicktime kit that you have.
Ratezd, does your wastegate hang as low in the pic? I understand what Stangjumper is saying by turning the w/g upwards and bending the piped muffler around torwards the ground, but Im not sure this is the way i wanta go.

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also stangjumper what size drill bit did you use for the holes? thanks again

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Ratezd, does your wastegate hang as low in the pic? I understand what Stangjumper is saying by turning the w/g upwards and bending the piped muffler around torwards the ground, but Im not sure this is the way i wanta go.
Yep - same exact way. It's gonna be tough to re-route it back in but i'm sure I can figure something out.

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