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how much power will this turbo make?

T6 Garret Compressor Inducer- 2.670"~68mm
Compressor Exducer- 3.700"~ 94mm
Exhaust Inducer- 3.500"~89mm
Exhaust Exducer- 3.025"~76mm
Turbine A/R 1.54

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Not enough info to even give a decent answer. To many variables.

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what do you need? Chris
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T6 Garret Compressor Inducer- 2.670"~68mm
Compressor Exducer- 3.700"~ 94mm
Exhaust Inducer- 3.500"~89mm
Exhaust Exducer- 3.025"~76mm
Turbine A/R 1.54

Thanks Chris
Your title being "How much power will this turbo make?" leaves a lot to be desired. We need engine specifics. Are you taling rear wheel or engine? Depends on how much you are spinning it/boost? Motor size, trans, heads, cam, intake, etc... Fuel Injected or Carb? What are you using to tune it? There is much more but that is a pretty good start.

Most T6's are very large so I would say anywhere north of 1000 fwhp and above should be relatively easy on the right motor. It is the right combination that makes power, not magazine pick and choose (not saying that is what you are doing). Is this a deal you found or a friend selling this to you? In any case good luck.
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a 94mm turbo trimmed like that will easily support 800hp if the motor can use it.

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but that turbine A/R is for a gigantic motor. say a 460 with stall.

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it sounds kinda like a 4094 but with a diesel turbine. you need a lower turbine a/r for sure. just switch housing. and it will work on a smaller motor very well.

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although... that turbine diameter will make up for some of the superhigh A/R of the housing.

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393 ,850 carb,supervictor,pro topline 200cc heads,202 160,284hr cam c4,3500 stall,9.8 to 1 com. Thanks Chris
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well regardless of your engine combo the turbo will only support the hp it can flow.


http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...R_774595_4.htm


look at the 4294 its at least close to your turbo. compressor trim is the same.


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if everything is ideal my guess would be 900 flat. boost it till it gets there.

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hey chris this is jason,

who traded pistons with u a while back and unless u swapped them out for something else the compression would of been like 12.5 with a 60 ish cc chamber?
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a 94mm turbo trimmed like that will easily support 800hp if the motor can use it.
it's a 68mm turbo.

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Have a set of .098 head gaskets ,64cc heads,.022in the hole .Thanks Chris

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ummm no it isnt. exducer determines turbo sizing.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob..._714568_10.htm

note the manufacturer calls it an 82mm turbo based on exducer. please dont post a counter point if u dont know what ur talking about.

like i said that is a nice sized turbo.

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I have to agree with the above ~ just the notion that someone would create a T6 based 68mm is going to ring some bells that something isn't right. F*** that ricer math!
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Ok what turbo would you use, 700.00 or under, to get 700hp to flyeheel 9.8 to 1 com. carbed. Thanks Chris
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why dont you use that large frame turbo and change the turbine. no need to buy and all new turbo if you have one. for you 700 dollars you already have a suitible compressor. change the housing to a 1.0 a/r if there's one available for the turbine, or buy a turbine assembly.

i mean really use it just change the housing if they sell one for that turbine. its cheap and easy to do. if its standard rotation it what i'd do. if u have to buy a turbine/housing its still worth doing.
JMO.

im going with a 4294 for my next one.

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T6 Garret Compressor Inducer- 2.670"~68mm
Compressor Exducer- 3.700"~ 94mm
Exhaust Inducer- 3.500"~89mm
Exhaust Exducer- 3.025"~76mm
Turbine A/R 1.54

Thanks Chris
pics would help ID turbo, sounds like a diesel turbo, Turbine definately too big. May be able to just replace the Turbine housing and get you where you need to be. 68mm is definately on the small side, i would have to say 700 RWHP range with that motor MAYBE. Give me a call at the office, ask for hong and i will see what housings we have.

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ummm no it isnt. exducer determines turbo sizing.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob..._714568_10.htm

note the manufacturer calls it an 82mm turbo based on exducer. please dont post a counter point if u dont know what ur talking about.

like i said that is a nice sized turbo.
dude, shut up. seriously.

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dude, shut up. seriously.

dude, no. seriously.


ok, so turbonetics rates their t-76 by the inducer. its a 102.4mm turbo the way garrett rates sizing.

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and precision. and innovative. and every racing organization that limits turbo size.
don't post a counterpoint....you know the rest.

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When referring to turbo size, every rule book under the sun states "tip to tip in the leading edge of the compressor" so for comparison purposes, its considered a 68mm turbo.

For example, the GT5533 has 94mm at the inducer of the compressor and 133 on the exducer so the last 2 digits are in reference to the compressor exducer. The first 2 are from the turbine inducer. Nobody considers it a "133mm turbo" and it is legally a 94mm turbo when fitting it into a class.

Thee turbo in question does sound like a gt4094 and IS good for 800hp at the crank. Garrett's 94 is good for 1700.


Add, the turbo in question is NOT suitable for a 393 inch motor. Even at lower boost pressures (it wont make much with that CI), the exhaust back pressure will cause the bearing system to be unevenly loaded and fail prematurely.

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i have never looked at any other brand of turbo besides garrett seriously to the point where i paid attention to how their sizing was rated. i understand why class rules use inducer. (trims)

i stick by my comments as garrett rates the turbo size directly on the compressor maps. however.... this thread has been useful to me. i am looking at other brands and their trims and offerings. Ive been a garrett man since the GN days. kinda ford/chevy in my views toward other brands.

i need a larger turbo, and am not really that satisfied with the map of the 4088, or 4094 exactly. Other brands' 72mm inducer/102mm exducer offerings are quiet appealing, and im selecting one of those for my next turbo. ill be installing it here pretty quickly.

i am sorry for coming on strongly. it should not have been personal. later.

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i have never looked at any other brand of turbo besides garrett seriously to the point where i paid attention to how their sizing was rated. i understand why class rules use inducer. (trims)

i stick by my comments as garrett rates the turbo size directly on the compressor maps. however.... this thread has been useful to me. i am looking at other brands and their trims and offerings. Ive been a garrett man since the GN days. kinda ford/chevy in my views toward other brands.

i need a larger turbo, and am not really that satisfied with the map of the 4088, or 4094 exactly. Other brands' 72mm inducer/102mm exducer offerings are quiet appealing, and im selecting one of those for my next turbo. ill be installing it here pretty quickly.

i am sorry for coming on strongly. it should not have been personal. later.
Honestly, I'd call Jose at Forced Inductions. He is a dealer for every brand and can really get you matched up with the right turbo for you while giving an unbiased opinion. Just really, when your talking about size, use compressor inducer to compare or it could get really confusing.
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Ok what turbo would you use, 700.00 or under, to get 700hp to flyeheel 9.8 to 1 com. carbed. Thanks Chris
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