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Holset HT60 on a 331, or in laymans terms a HUGE freaking diesel turbo on my stang...

This is a 331 SBF with a Holset ht-60 turbo off a n-14 cummins engine it came off a wrecked semi "Light roll-over". This was a 3 month build. The hot side and cold side was all fabricated in a 3-car garage. First test drive was today and it spools incredibly fast. 1-3 PSI in 2 seconds then instantly to 17 PSI. Time for a boost controller now because the motor is 10 to 1 compression ratio and I didn't really think it would spool so easily. Proof that a junkyard semi-truck turbo can work and build boost fast.

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Pretty dam cool man. Nice job looks really good!!!


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Pretty dam cool man. Nice job looks really good!!!
I am just wondering how long the stock block will hold
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big damn turbo, nicely done man! have any video yet?
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big damn turbo, nicely done man! have any video yet?
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No videos yet, i will try and get some. Right now i am still tweaking the tune.
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looks pretty clean
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I am just wondering how long the stock block will hold
I wouldnt worry about it. I had a completely 115,000mi stock motor in my street car with a 76mm on it. I had it tuned and drove it till I pulled the motor out and put my built motor in it a couple of weeks ago. As long as you dont get greedy with the boost and keep the rpm's down with a good tune it should last a while. You did a really good job there dont skimp on the important stuff. [Tune]

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I wouldnt worry about it. I had a completely 115,000mi stock motor in my street car with a 76mm on it. I had it tuned and drove it till I pulled the motor out and put my built motor in it a couple of weeks ago. As long as you dont get greedy with the boost and keep the rpm's down with a good tune it should last a while. You did a really good job there dont skimp on the important stuff. [Tune]
I can not take credit for the fab work, a good friend of mine did all the fab work because i don't have a welder. I plan on keeping the boost between 10-12psi because of the compression. It is being tuned with an Anderson PMS.
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I had a pms about 10yrs ago on another street car I had and it just wasnt for me. It could have been because it was one of the first to come out. But Im running a r-block 363ci with fox lake stage 4 ported TW head's a custom solid roller turbo cam and a 76mm Precision , Glenns 950hp fuel system with 60lb injector's and tunning it with a SCT chip this time.[ Street Car ] Trying to tune is not for me Ive got a FAST XFI in my race car and I very rarely ever mess with it myself. Id rather pay someone that know's what they are doing to do the tunning and enjoy going fast.

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dang your stuff looks sweet.. good job...

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I had a pms about 10yrs ago on another street car I had and it just wasnt for me. It could have been because it was one of the first to come out. But Im running a r-block 363ci with fox lake stage 4 ported TW head's a custom solid roller turbo cam and a 76mm Precision , Glenns 950hp fuel system with 60lb injector's and tunning it with a SCT chip this time.[ Street Car ] Trying to tune is not for me Ive got a FAST XFI in my race car and I very rarely ever mess with it myself. Id rather pay someone that know's what they are doing to do the tunning and enjoy going fast.
It was probally the first gen pms. I have had mine on the car for years and it has always worked great for me. I change my car around way too much to use a burned chip. As a matter of fact, I am planning on going with an aftermarket block based motor next year, maybe sooner if this stock block cracks in half. Lol......
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TProof that a junkyard semi-truck turbo can work and build boost fast.
who the heck said that?

my $80 holset makes 500rwhp with a stock 302 and ported e7s.

your setup looks great! What foot is the exhaust side? a t6 I am guessing.

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It was probally the first gen pms. I have had mine on the car for years and it has always worked great for me.
x2 the PMS is an excellent piece

I have tuned a 800rwhp turbo street motor with one all the way down to a 280rwhp stock bottom end 302 and they perform flawlessly if you know how to use them.
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who the heck said that?

my $80 holset makes 500rwhp with a stock 302 and ported e7s.

your setup looks great! What foot is the exhaust side? a t6 I am guessing.



x2 the PMS is an excellent piece

I have tuned a 800rwhp turbo street motor with one all the way down to a 280rwhp stock bottom end 302 and they perform flawlessly if you know how to use them.
The turbo has it's own flange, it is almost a T6, we just had to elongate the bolt holes a little bit.
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Looks very well done, great job.
I like the black theme, what did you use there?
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The turbo has it's own flange, it is almost a T6, we just had to elongate the bolt holes a little bit.
ah yes . . . the "holset" flange. Mine wasn't quite a t4.

One last question, how in the world is the steering shaft run?
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ah yes . . . the "holset" flange. Mine wasn't quite a t4.

One last question, how in the world is the steering shaft run?
Stock steering shaft, in the factory location. The downpipe is an work of art.
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Diet Mtn Dew? Come on that is ludicrius!

Not that a HUGE freaking diesel turbo on a mustang is not, lol

Looks great. Very well layed out.
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Looks awesome! Good Job!
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Looks very well done, great job.
I like the black theme, what did you use there?
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The exhaust housing was ceramic coated black, all the hotside plumbing is just VHT header paint and header wrap.
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What size down pipe?

That is a big turbo for a 60mm compressor wheel. haha Will a S400 or GT47 bolt right up to the kit as well?

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One last question, how in the world is the steering shaft run?
People are always scared of the steering shaft. If your doing a custom kit there is actually more room on the drivers side. The motor is off set in the engine bay to the right a little. So if you plan well you can get a good size pipe on that side. I have a 5" down pipe that merges to dual 3.5" exhaust right after the steering shaft.

Every one said it was impossible. I guess they are stuck with a t4 turbo with a 3.5" down pipe. And no spark plug access with the dp on. haha

Stock5.0 Props to you and your buddy for making it work.

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What size down pipe?

That is a big turbo for a 60mm compressor wheel. haha Will a S400 or GT47 bolt right up to the kit as well?
It is a 5in outlet on the exhaust housing, so we used a 5 to 3.5 reducer and 3.5 all the way back.

I am pretty much stuck with this turbo, because a Holset HT60 is a reverse rotation turbo compared to most.
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I didn't even notice that. Well use it till your motor out grows it one day. Then sell it and build a new kit. But have fun with it till then!!!

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I didn't even notice that. Well use it till your motor out grows it one day. Then sell it and build a new kit. But have fun with it till then!!!

Well if i had the choice i would build a 427 windsor with low compression pistons and get a HX60 (same turbo, but standard rotation) and run a twin setup.
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Is the turbo mounted to the frame or are the headers holding all the weight?

If the former, do you have solid mounts to prevent the motor from flexing?
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Sweet set up!!!

Cheaper than VHT and works great.
So sticky it will practically pull your shoes off, just like the movie theater
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Every one said it was impossible. I guess they are stuck with a t4 turbo with a 3.5" down pipe. And no spark plug access with the dp on. haha
who said it was impossible?


Is the rest of your drabble somehow directed at me?
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Is the turbo mounted to the frame or are the headers holding all the weight?

If the former, do you have solid mounts to prevent the motor from flexing?
Yes the turbo is mounted directly to the frame because of the weight. And yes it has solid motor mounts...
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UPDATE. After blowing up the 331 that was in the car, I did the most logical thing, I put a stock 302 shortblock in it with an F cam, and converted it to run on E-85. The car is actually faster now. I just have to get a boost controller to get this car to leave on boost.
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Sorry to hear the motor blew. At least it is faster now. lol

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who said it was impossible?


Is the rest of your drabble somehow directed at me?
I didn't see this before. No, it was not directed at you. Just when I built my kit every one said a 5" down pipe would not fit past the steering shaft. But we made it happen. Just took some planning and good execution to make it work.

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