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Question need advice on a standalone system

just installed a single turbo kit on my stang and everybody keeps telling me to tune it i need a stand alone fuel system what ever that is.
I need tons of help guys i know nothing and i dont pretend to know anything i am here to learn from the best

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Details on the car...year, mods, etc.

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I would find out what people in your area are using. Whether it is your friends or a shop. The learning curve on a standalone system can be pretty difficult without some help. If you plan on having a shop do all the tuning let them choose.

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All stand alone systems have thier quirks, as stated above finding a shop that will give you good support with the system they spend the most time with is more important than what box to buy.


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Bob Kurgan, AEM EMS, Big Stuff 3 he also works with. I went with the AEM.
Good luck man. I suggest going into the Engine Management boards here and doing a ton of research that is what I did. I'm not turbo charged but a stand alone is a good thing for any care imho. I've seen it on almost stock cars and it changes the car versus a chip tune. Good luck with whatever you do man! Another upside to an aftermarket ecu is usually you can run a map sensor which is a bit easier to me personally than maf. To each their own.
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You're in MI, call Lidio at Alternative Auto, have him install a FAST XFI.
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my vote is for megasquirt

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MS is cheaper, just as powerful and open source. good stuff, just takes time

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time it does but there is alot of helpful people on this site as well as turbomustangs.com and of course MSefi.com


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if anyone cared to read the first post he said standalone FUEL system. which is basically pumps bigger lines, rails, and a regulator. If he were talking about tuning I would definitely go with a Fast XFI
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just installed a single turbo kit on my stang and everybody keeps telling me to tune it i need a stand alone fuel management system what ever that is.
I need tons of help guys i know nothing and i dont pretend to know anything i am here to learn from the best
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I thought he might have just forgot the word management here: where he followed by.... fuel system what ever that is. Saying he needs tons of help and such.

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Okay here is some definite basic knowledge. A stand alone engine management system replaces your computer. The stock computer along with maf is a very good system. You can run a maf and a stand alone but most go to map. Some stand alones require you to buy extra sensors which also increase the cost. Some utilize your factory sensors. All of these should be paired with a wide band O2 sensor as opposed to the stock O2 sensor. Data logging is a good feature you might want to look into. It can greatly help you when diagnosing your car on runs at the track or on the street. You can have a small portion of this without a stand alone by looking into Innovate Motorsports wideband+data logger. But if you wan TOTAL control over your car you want a stand alone. But know this, some variables have to be read over and over and over again to truly understand their impact on every other aspect of the car.

The stock computer can do well. What are your hp needs... track car? street car? A bit of both? What is your entire build list for your car? We will help. I would suggest an SCT chip and a good tuner for your car or Bob Kurgan. Hell just call Bob and he might be able to help clear your head a bit better on the subject than most on here can. I wish you the best.
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I thought he might have just forgot the word management here: where he followed by.... fuel system what ever that is. Saying he needs tons of help and such.

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Okay here is some definite basic knowledge. A stand alone engine management system replaces your computer. The stock computer along with maf is a very good system. You can run a maf and a stand alone but most go to map. Some stand alones require you to buy extra sensors which also increase the cost. Some utilize your factory sensors. All of these should be paired with a wide band O2 sensor as opposed to the stock O2 sensor. Data logging is a good feature you might want to look into. It can greatly help you when diagnosing your car on runs at the track or on the street. You can have a small portion of this without a stand alone by looking into Innovate Motorsports wideband+data logger. But if you wan TOTAL control over your car you want a stand alone. But know this, some variables have to be read over and over and over again to truly understand their impact on every other aspect of the car.

The stock computer can do well. What are your hp needs... track car? street car? A bit of both? What is your entire build list for your car? We will help. I would suggest an SCT chip and a good tuner for your car or Bob Kurgan. Hell just call Bob and he might be able to help clear your head a bit better on the subject than most on here can. I wish you the best.
i talked to pauls performance here in jackson michigan and they told me for 1000 dollars they could tune my car is that cheap or to much for a tune they will probably burn a chip for my car and dyno tune it they r the only ones i know about in michigan unless anybody else knows anybody in michigan that might be able to tune it a little cheaper autozone doesnt pay the best my car has a lot of goods like the fuel pump in tank is a 255 also t-rex in line fuel pump a holley system max intake 45 lb injecters, maf is 4 inch ,75 mm thro. body motor is bal. also forged internals it had a chip burned for the supercharger i just removed but it doesnt want to run right when i start the car and hit the throt. it hessitate really bad it also backfired once i think timing is way off it is set at 16 degrees what should the timing be set at my turbo is only a 61 trim thanks for any help or direction you can give me much appreciated

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Back that timing off ASAP.....8-10* with the spout plug out. Fuel pressure??
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[email protected] alternative auto- Where in MI are you? I think lidio is more around 675ish for a chip and dyno tune.
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With your setup you should be good with a SCT chip and a good tune. Give Bob Kurgan a call and talk with him. If you have access to a truck/trailer you can bring it to him. If not he can also set you up via mail order. He is the man when it comes to tuning these cars.

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I paid $500 for my sct chip and tune.

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