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post #1 of 17 Old 05-22-2009, 04:13 PM Thread Starter
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What do you think?

So I just bought a hellion kit for my 92 5.0 from my buddy (older style kit)it has the 62 mm turbo,Gonna start putting everything on there next week but was just curious if anyone has this kit and what kind of numbers were they putting down and what do you think I might be able to put down also. The car has these currents mods Im thinken the cam that I have will hurt me.

306 stock bottom end,
Trick flow street top end kit with a stage one cam,
I have 42 lb injectors with a 255 pump,
75 mm tb with a 73 mm cl massair,
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I did some googling and I found a guy that did almost the same setup but with a holley intake and a stock cam with gt40 heads and he put down 523 to the wheels with 590 torque. But how much can a stock bottom end hold befor it goes kaboom?

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Nice, I did do some searching was just trying to see if anyone on the board has this kinda setup or something close.
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You will be able to put down enough to split the block for sure. Your injectors are going to be pretty close to maxxed at 500whp though.

I'd keep it safe on timing and fuel though for sure.
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you will def be able to split the block with that setup i have something very similar to you
B&G turbo kit with garret t-67
dss 306 pro bullit
tfs street heat Heads and intake and TFS stage one cam
42lbers
255 pump
65mm TB
Runing on Megasquirt 1 V3 w/spark
making 440hp at the wheels and 475tq at the wheels with 7psi
but that is with real conservative timing up top w 93octane running 11.0afr in boost i can def make more with more timing when i hit the dyno this summer again

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Thats what Ive been hearing about the block being on the edge of spliting, Have you ever took your car to the track with that setup?

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you will def be able to split the block with that setup i have something very similar to you
B&G turbo kit with garret t-67
dss 306 pro bullit
tfs street heat Heads and intake and TFS stage one cam
42lbers
255 pump
65mm TB
Runing on Megasquirt 1 V3 w/spark
making 440hp at the wheels and 475tq at the wheels with 7psi
but that is with real conservative timing up top w 93octane running 11.0afr in boost i can def make more with more timing when i hit the dyno this summer again
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For instance...I have a similar setup running 8psi, but with 24* total timing and a straight 11.5afr (and put down nearly 50 extra rwhp and tq). Don't put all of your faith in dyno numbers either...as they can easily be manipulated in one way or the other and can vary a great deal.

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So Im assuming they will time it who ever I get to tune it right? Im putting it on loading in on the trailer and taking it to get tuned, or is that something I will need to do?
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So Im assuming they will time it who ever I get to tune it right? Im putting it on loading in on the trailer and taking it to get tuned, or is that something I will need to do?
If they are tuning it....absolutely. How much boost will you be running?
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If they are tuning it....absolutely. How much boost will you be running?
Well my waste gate is setup for 12lbs thats what the guy had it at before but I was thinken like 10? if not 8 lbs?

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Well my waste gate is setup for 12lbs thats what the guy had it at before but I was thinken like 10? if not 8 lbs?
You won't be able to run anything under the wastegate spring. If you want to run 8psi, your going to have to get a smaller spring...
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ok cool this is the first turbo setup that ive ever had so this is all knew to me. to get a spring for the wastegate hit up a turbo shop? we have one where i live.
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you can try the turbo shop..what brand is the waste gate?

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Nice, I did do some searching was just trying to see if anyone on the board has this kinda setup or something close.
It is not the setup that kills the block, it is your right foot and the amount of power it can unleash on people The guy you found online with the similar setup, his power numbers many would say is on the "edge" of block splitting territory, my rule is if I am truly worried about breaking the block then I do not exceed mid 500 fwhp numbers. I am not going to be bothered about a kaboom, which means I have an extra motor or can afford another motor then my rule changes to not to exceed mid 500 rwhp numbers. Because either way, I just do not enjoy swapping motors due to my laziness.

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If your worried you should buy my R-block motor setup for a blower or a turbo. Never worry again and make up to 1000 hp. Always put a smile on my face making 25lbs of boost.
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lol thats what my next chocie was gonna be is buy a r block, the info has been helpful its gave me some sort of idea on what to do and not to do lol, Thanks guys
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I found out its a 44mm turbonetics wastegate also to the person that was wondering.
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