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My BG Turbo Kit install

My kit came in today, not gonna do a huge build thread but figured I would show some pics I know people like to see them.

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So far so good, no real complaints so far but the coating is pretty cheap it seems, scratches super easy and it wasnt completely even.. Cant complain considering it was a fairly cheap upgrade but would prefer better, maybe when I blow this motor I will have it jet-hot or something else.

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1) Had to move my clutch cable, stock would probably work but I had the extended clutch cable, not sure where I am going to put it yet.
2) Had to remove my charcoal box, definatly will need to find a place to put it as I cant go without it.
3) Had to trim the sway bar mount pretty heavily, not a big deal and expected it.
4) I have to make my own intercooler brackets, not too happy about that but its easy enough to do


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What kit is that?

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I am dumb a$$ i see the heading.
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I like the B&G Kits.. I still would like to see them with an intercooler similar to the ones on the HP kits.
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Looking good. What is the type of coating upgrade you opted for?

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Nice. Just finished up my install this past weekend. Don't see why you had to grind so much off the swaybar mount...unless the engine is cocked to the dr side, which would give you a LOT of room on the pass side. I'm using solid mounts, didn't grind the sb mount or need any clearance on the pass side pinch rail. I tucked the intercooler nicely under an lx bumper(only needing to trim the fiberglass headlight panel) but had to shorten the cold side to the cooler about 2" because of this. I also had to take about an additional 2 1/2" off the cold side to the tb....plus the 4" out for the mass air meter. Overall great kit and fitment...except the downpipe, which i did need to break out the BFH on the lower firewall/floorpan area to get it to fit. Seems quite a bit of people need to do this tho.

Still waiting on a y-pipe i ordered from Ponydown tho....should have been here by now! I should have just made one like i planned.

I have the long clutch cable, routed it straight out and around the oil filter area...plenty of room. Drilled the cable bracket and attached it to the ps delete bolt.


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Looking good. What is the type of coating upgrade you opted for?
Upgraded to the black ceramic coating

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why is there a number 2 circled on the header?

Precision 67mm turbo, this and that.
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why is there a number 2 circled on the header?


Thats from it just touching the swaybar mount, thats what I was saying about the coating, it scratches instantly


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nice setup

cool mine will be here next week from b and g

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Nice pics. My buddy has Jet hotted his Cartech kit....and it's been flakey :-/

Oh btw, what header bolts did you use? Brian told me what bolts I needed to get for my kit, but of course I proceeded to forgetting.

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did that air filter come with the kit?....
Thanks for taking the time to post

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Looks great so far. My box is sitting in the garage and has been for two weeks. I will unwrap it all when I get home in a few days and get some pics. Hopefully the install will start next weeks, hopefully.
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did that air filter come with the kit?....
Thanks for taking the time to post
Yes

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Nice pics. My buddy has Jet hotted his Cartech kit....and it's been flakey :-/

Oh btw, what header bolts did you use? Brian told me what bolts I needed to get for my kit, but of course I proceeded to forgetting.
I just have arp bolts, not sure which ones I have had em forever

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Nice. Just finished up my install this past weekend. Don't see why you had to grind so much off the swaybar mount...unless the engine is cocked to the dr side, which would give you a LOT of room on the pass side. I'm using solid mounts, didn't grind the sb mount or need any clearance on the pass side pinch rail. I tucked the intercooler nicely under an lx bumper(only needing to trim the fiberglass headlight panel) but had to shorten the cold side to the cooler about 2" because of this. I also had to take about an additional 2 1/2" off the cold side to the tb....plus the 4" out for the mass air meter. Overall great kit and fitment...except the downpipe, which i did need to break out the BFH on the lower firewall/floorpan area to get it to fit. Seems quite a bit of people need to do this tho.

Still waiting on a y-pipe i ordered from Ponydown tho....should have been here by now! I should have just made one like i planned.

I have the long clutch cable, routed it straight out and around the oil filter area...plenty of room. Drilled the cable bracket and attached it to the ps delete bolt.

I did take a BFH to the firewall floorpan ahead of time expectign this issue, its a real pain to get in but once its in it seems to clear everything. Just a matter of getting it hooked to the turbo before tightening the turbo down.

As far as grinding down the subframe, my engine has always sat a little crooked in the bay, so this weekend I spaced out the motor mounts to get the engine to sit level. I have a ton of space on the passenger side, the instructions said to move the pinch weld for the flange and my flange is like a half inch away. Would prolly be better if it was still crooked but I prefer the engine sit straight and have to grind the sway bar mount.
I am ordering some stuff today.
Anyone know how much heatwrap I should order for the downpipe?
They make 4 kits
1" wide x 15' long
1" wide x 50' long
2" wide x 15' long
2" wide x 50' long

I doubt the 15' will be long enough, but should I order the 2" wide or the 1" wide?

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Fairly straightforward install on this kit - much like my QT kit. I helped a buddy install his BG kit and we didn't have many issues with it - the 3.5" DP was tricky and we had to cut the pipe from the intercooler toTB in order to install the MAF.

All in all it's a nice kit and Brian does a good job with it.


I'll tell you what tho - I can't believe how much hacking the front bumpers need on the aero cars, on my 86 all of the cutting for the intercooler was done behind the bumper - the LX/GT front aero nose - OMG you have to HACK the #### out of it and it's plainly visible from the front so take your time and try to make the cuts look the same on both sides.

That's not just the BG kit, I hear most of them need this surgery.

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I wrapped just the downpipe from the turbo, to where it turns down at the firewall. I ordered the 2" x 50' and used less than half of it. I wasn't sure how much I was gonna wrap when I ordered it.

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I did take a BFH to the firewall floorpan ahead of time expectign this issue, its a real pain to get in but once its in it seems to clear everything. Just a matter of getting it hooked to the turbo before tightening the turbo down.

As far as grinding down the subframe, my engine has always sat a little crooked in the bay, so this weekend I spaced out the motor mounts to get the engine to sit level. I have a ton of space on the passenger side, the instructions said to move the pinch weld for the flange and my flange is like a half inch away. Would prolly be better if it was still crooked but I prefer the engine sit straight and have to grind the sway bar mount.
I am ordering some stuff today.
Anyone know how much heatwrap I should order for the downpipe?
They make 4 kits
1" wide x 15' long
1" wide x 50' long
2" wide x 15' long
2" wide x 50' long

I doubt the 15' will be long enough, but should I order the 2" wide or the 1" wide?

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I have a couple brand new rolls of black 2" wrap if interested.

Ratedz...i made sure i DIDN'T have that hacked up look. I hate that, looks all buck tooth with the cooler sticking out,lol. Tucked it up nice!


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THats an autozone air filter.... wth?
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yea the filter is bobo

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NoSlo90- Do you have picutures of your front bumper after the trimming?
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No i don't, i recently bought a new computer and my antique of a digital camera apparently isn't compatible,lol.
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I ended up not even being able to use mine. The turbo sat too close to the front and I couldn't get it in there without hacking up behind the headlight or something. I ended up buying that little stubby K&N and using it instead. (RU-2510) in case you need to do the same.

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Wow, that sucks it doesn't come with IC brackets.. I would have expected it to do so.
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Indeed, I was quite dissapointed with that, the more that I look at this kit the more I realize how cheap they are and how easy I could have built one myself and saved so much money.

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Biggest reason i'm disappointed that the QuickTime kits fell out of favor. Bernard used far superior parts IMO


K&N filter, all Russel fittings, Tial BOV and WG, came with IC brackets, etc....


The B&G kit is still a great kit, just has some cheaper supporting items in it.

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Indeed, I was quite dissapointed with that, the more that I look at this kit the more I realize how cheap they are and how easy I could have built one myself and saved so much money.
You'd be surprised how quickly all of those bits and pieces add up in a turbo kit. You have to remember that many of the items included in his are likely purchased in bulk, and therefore are considerably cheaper than what you or I can purchase for individually.

If I remember correctly, just my cold side silicone couplers ran me in the $150 range.

There is no doubt that you could likely have done it cheaper, but unless you fabricate a great deal of everything yourself and find awesome deals on new (and likely used) parts....you won't save "that" much.

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You'd be surprised how quickly all of those bits and pieces add up in a turbo kit. You have to remember that many of the items included in his are likely purchased in bulk, and therefore are considerably cheaper than what you or I can purchase for individually.

If I remember correctly, just my cold side silicone couplers ran me in the $150 range.

There is no doubt that you could likely have done it cheaper, but unless you fabricate a great deal of everything yourself and find awesome deals on new (and likely used) parts....you won't save "that" much.
Completely agree - another thing, once the kit is on you'll soon forget who makes the fittings, air filter, etc.... none of it will matter once the car is running and you have a ####eating grin on your face

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Biggest reason i'm disappointed that the QuickTime kits fell out of favor. Bernard used far superior parts IMO


K&N filter, all Russel fittings, Tial BOV and WG, came with IC brackets, etc....


The B&G kit is still a great kit, just has some cheaper supporting items in it.
Yea from what I see the QT kits were much better than the BG kits, its a shame he let it fail.

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If it is the ceramic coat the reason it scratches so easily is because it is not fully cured. It has to be run to be fully cured.
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Indeed, I was quite dissapointed with that, the more that I look at this kit the more I realize how cheap they are and how easy I could have built one myself and saved so much money.
I feel your disappointment. I too was extremely dissappointed with my kit as i had to do some serious modification to make it work. Smashing the firewall, trimming the swaybar mount, completely redoing my cold side. It is a good thing that i learned or just took a chance and bought a TIG welder and modified my kit to fit my car.
My air filter didn't fit either. I started to trim my head light area and said forget this filter. My car was just painted. You can get a smaller K&N filter and use a air inlet kit for the track and the smaller K&N for the street.
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Given some credit though, it is kinda tough to try and make things fit right when you have all these different aftermarket mounts, k-members, etc. That all gets factored in. My opinion of the B&G kit is that it is ok, but could be much better. Some people have had very good luck with their kit fitting. I didn't. Would i buy it again? probably not, maybe just the headers, but since i learned how to TIG, i would probably attemp to make my own header now. I paid $4500 for my custom kit and i had to modified it. All coating had to be redone. Here is my build link at the turbo forum. You can see all the modification i had to do for my kit to fit correctly.
http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/in...topic=108757.0

If anyone who has the time and money, learn to weld and make your own kit. The money you spent on their kit, you can use that money and buy a decent MIG and the header kit and build your own kit. my $.02

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I know the feeling, I dont think my kit is that bad but man im losing motivation fast. If I knew it was gonna be this much trouble I woulda just built my own kit

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