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What size turbo for my setup?

What size would be close to what I need for my setup, I've got a built 347 with a Super victor intake and Afr 185's, it made 557rwhp and 515rwtq at 20lbs of boost with an F1c. I would like to get to 700rwhp and I think a turbo would get me there, I'm very familiar with blowers, but never done a whole lot of research on turbos. I rode in a turbo car yesterday and it was sweet, who has switched to the turbo over the blower and was very satisfied?


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I switched from a Vortech to a turbo and would never go back.

A PT 76GTS with a .96 exhaust housing would suit your needs nicely. I made 787RWHP with it at 15psi through and non locking AOD. There is another 10psi in the turbo on my setup.

Your HP #'s on your blower setup seem low also. I made 642RWHp through an AOD with 14psi from an S trim.


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Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on, but I'm ready to try a turbo now.

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What rpm are you turning your motor? What are the cam specs? Compression?
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Turbos for the win !!!!!

no belt to rob power
no belt to slip
change boost setting with push of button


Single 76-88mm or twin T3/T4's.
Picking A/R is a bit of an art, with give and take on max power vs. quick spool.

If you really want to understand how to pick a turbo
get the following book.
http://www.amazon.com/Maximum-Boost-...6557093&sr=8-1

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I'm going to run this combo for this summer but I'll probably go with a turbo setup next year. I know this question is like a Vortec to Procharger comparision, but what is a good kit to go with?

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I'm going to run this combo for this summer but I'll probably go with a turbo setup next year. I know this question is like a Vortec to Procharger comparision, but what is a good kit to go with?
B&G turbo has a nice stage 2 kit with a pt88. I would call Brian at B&G and see what he says. Im NO expert but I think 700hp is out of range for the stage 1 kit lol

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B&G turbo hands down. He has a special going on now: http://bgturbokits.com/store/index.p...392113956ffcc2

I would get the GTS 78mm upgrade.

Call up and talk to Brian. He is very helpful.
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B&G turbo has a nice stage 2 kit with a pt88. I would call Brian at B&G and see what he says. Im NO expert but I think 700hp is out of range for the stage 1 kit lol

B&G and PonyDown have about the best rep for quality and service.
With some upgrades you can make 1000HP with the stage 1 kit.
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With some upgrades you can make 1000HP with the stage 1 kit.
NICE !!! Thats exactly why I said Im no expert and to call Brian lol I have not seen his site in a while... looks like he has MANY options/upgrades now. man he does nice work!!


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Cam specs are .605 lift on intake .574 on exhaust duration is 228 In. and 240 Ex. 114 lobe seperation. Rpm range is 63-6500 due to the heads, compression is 8.8:1.

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I've been doing some searching on turbos, I've also been recommended a Precison turbo. I didn't come up with a whole lot of dealers for kits. Which is the best way to do this, piece the kit together or buy as a kit? I know I need headers, a , x over pipe, waste gate, interecooler and some piping, what else is needed? I want to sell my whole Prochager setup and go turbo, what do I need?

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I've been doing some searching on turbos, I've also been recommended a Precison turbo. I didn't come up with a whole lot of dealers for kits. Which is the best way to do this, piece the kit together or buy as a kit? I know I need headers, a , x over pipe, waste gate, interecooler and some piping, what else is needed? I want to sell my whole Prochager setup and go turbo, what do I need?
Depends how mechanically inclined you are.

You can make a very nice DIY turbo kit using flipped BBK headers and save some money
or you can order the Stg 2 kit from www.bgturbokits.com

The kit will come with all that stuff. You just have to figure out how you
want it to exit after the trans bellhousing.

For your wants I would just order that B&G Stg 2 kit and be done with it.

If you have a metal cut-off saw, welder and various metal working tools
and skills (its not hard) you can build up the same kit for a bit less money.
Did mine, can walk you thru it. Really isnt that hard if you have half a brain and the right tools

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I'm pretty well mechanically inclined,I've done all of my own work except build the shortblock, which I just choose to have it professionally done. I'm no stranger to this stuff I've just done all of my reasearch to blowers, not alot into the turbo's. I guess I just need to do some more reading and I'll pick up on what I need, so your saying that a flipped set of BBK 1 3/4's will work? What type of x over pipe can I use? I can figure out the intercooler and piping, I've had mine in a couple of differant places on my car now and had to modify to make it work. Then add some oil lines and a turbo and that should be most of it right?

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yup very easy. i made my kit years ago and it was simple. you will need weld though, how are your skills ? for some its easier to get the hot side kit and piece together the cold. if you have a welder and grinder get to work ! id imagine it would take you 3 or 4 nights to get the hot side done after you figure out where you want to mount the turbo. for your combo id get a s400 series. call up someone like jose from forced inductions and pick his brain on what he suggests. it will be beneficial for you to talk to someone who eat, sleep, ####s, turbos plus you can ask any other questions pertaining to turbos you might have.

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Cam specs are .605 lift on intake .574 on exhaust duration is 228 In. and 240 Ex. 114 lobe seperation. Rpm range is 63-6500 due to the heads, compression is 8.8:1.

What heads are you running?

How much HP are you looking to make?
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Run a Precision billet 76. Let me know I can get you a smokin deal on one.
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I'm pretty well mechanically inclined,I've done all of my own work except build the shortblock, which I just choose to have it professionally done. I'm no stranger to this stuff I've just done all of my reasearch to blowers, not alot into the turbo's. I guess I just need to do some more reading and I'll pick up on what I need, so your saying that a flipped set of BBK 1 3/4's will work? What type of x over pipe can I use? I can figure out the intercooler and piping, I've had mine in a couple of differant places on my car now and had to modify to make it work. Then add some oil lines and a turbo and that should be most of it right?
Get that book I posted earlier "Maximum Boost" ...... Very informative on this.



Yes BBK 1 5/8 flipped shorties work great.
You will make your crossover from bends from Summit.

First try at ever building a turbo kit, using flipped BBK shorties
It was fairly straight forward to do, if not quite easy.


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Thanks for all the info on this thread,it has opened up alot of ideas for me. I need to figure out when I want to make my move now, I just got this combo straigtened out, I need to work it for a little while I guess.

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