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post #1 of 23 Old 02-22-2009, 07:11 PM Thread Starter
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Need your opinion on turbo drain

So I have a question guys. What would you do?! Pump the oil to the oil pan or to the oil fill cap/cam covers?!

I ask because I really do not know what to do. I've been told that it would not be recommended to have the drain plug on the valve cover/oil filler cap because it could damaged the head (sludge and what not) and it would be SO much faster. If I punch the pan, it will take me longer because I do not have a lift so I am doing everything on jack stands.

So I wanted ya'lls opinion on that...


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post #2 of 23 Old 02-22-2009, 07:33 PM
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To get it into the valve cover you would have to use a pump and possible sump tank, that to me seems like a lot more trouble than jacking up the front of the car and tapping the pan. Heck I bet it would be cheaper to pay a shop to tap the pan for you while it is on the car then to buy said pump and lines and everything else. I am just assuming your turbo is not going to be sitting above the hood so cannot gravity feed into the valve cover.


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Well I already have the pump because the turbos sit to low. Last time I called a "shop" they wanted to charge 100 to make a lil hole... Screw that

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post #4 of 23 Old 02-22-2009, 08:13 PM
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You need to find a new shop because that job does not even take an hour and surely they do not charge $100 per hour. Hell my Mercedes mechanic does not even charge that much per hour.

If you have to have the pump anyway then there is nothing wrong with going into the valve cover. I know quite a few people who do just that with low mounts.

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put it in the pan.. its always been in the pan for a reason... pay to play if you don't know how to do it... or learn how to it.. or shut up about it and still put it in the pan. if the turbo is higher than the oil level in the pan gravity is your friend. if it is lower then have a pump.. pump it back up to the oil pan.
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I don't see it being a problem in the valve cover. The turbo"s" don't use a lot of oil.

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yea but they heat the pissss out of it.
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Would appear to not be an issue since as I mentioned I know people who have done this exact thing before though with a low mount the oil tends to go into a catch can and then is pumped back into the motor so it probably loses some heat in that process. I still think it is more trouble to go into a valve cover then into the oil pan.

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I punched/tapped the pan with the car on jack stands. Works great.

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I run a scavange pump and if I didn't have 4 return bungs in my pan. It would have been easier to just tap the valve cover and just use a longer hose. I don't use a catch can on the drain lines.


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Guess maybe it would depend on the pan but if we were talking about a stock fox body pan then the process to tap that thing is so insanely easy that I do not see how it could ever be considered any more difficult that tapping a valve cover. With the cover I'd be more concerned with creating some interference with a rocker and would want to pull it off, tap it and check things. With the pan I'd just tap it like people have been doing for ages for things like Vorturds and just go on with it.

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lol this may be stupid but could you run a y off the dip stick???

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lol this may be stupid but could you run a y off the dip stick???
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Tx_Cat can you post up a pic of what you are talking about ? how low is the turbo ?

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Like everyone else, I just tapped the pan and was done with it.
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you need to put it in the pan. if you try putting it in the valve cover you would need a pump. by doing that when oil gets hot from a turbo it gets air bubbles in the oil and the pump cannot pump the oil. also if you dont drain the turbo strait to the pan the oil will build up and cause the turbo to back up and smoke.
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you need to put it in the pan. if you try putting it in the valve cover you would need a pump. by doing that when oil gets hot from a turbo it gets air bubbles in the oil and the pump cannot pump the oil. also if you dont drain the turbo strait to the pan the oil will build up and cause the turbo to back up and smoke.
He said he has a low mount turbo setup and will need a pump regardless to get the oil back to the motor. Which means going into the valve cover has the same issues as going into the pan for him.

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the only thing i can think of is using a evacuation pump with a check valve to prevent the oil from loading back into the turbo.
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There are pumps made for this type of job. Some people though run fuel pumps for carb cars to do it. Most people use a catch can and then the pump. I am sure some people use check valves but none of the ones I have seen do that but maybe all or most of the pumps have check valves in them too.

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Here is my pump setup. My pump can run without oil, can be 5 feet above the turbo, pump it up to 20 feet high and the oil could be up to 300*. Plenty of people running the pumps without issues.



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Holy crap, is that on the car as its runs now? Thats quite the birds nest of tubing and hard-to-follow-ability...

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I personally like the hose claps.

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I personally like the hose claps.
+1 on the clamps, I thought I was mean enough already with my statement...I'll let you take the credit for the clamps.

Anyhow, you've got a PM....

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