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Millhouse, Moovs et al. What clutch are you running with your TT setups?

I had thought my king cobra was doing fine. Till it started slipping. Right now, I am in the middle of doing a 4V swap on my GT so I am nursing the clutch on the notch. If I don't hit the gas in a high number gear at low rpm, I am ok so far. A little push and up go the rpms and the smell of burning clutch fills the air.

What is the cheapest way to go to hold back all that low end torque?
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I had a local guy (clutch dynamics) make me one based on my combo. So far (3 years) it's been holding up just fine. I believe it was ~ $ 250 including the pressure plate & resurfacing of the flywheel. Well see how it holds up with the ET street radials I plan on throwing on her.


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Spec stage 3 - 6 puck ceramic disc.

I've ran this one w/ nitrous and now turbo and its still going strong.

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I had a local guy (clutch dynamics) make me one based on my combo. So far (3 years) it's been holding up just fine. I believe it was ~ $ 250 including the pressure plate & resurfacing of the flywheel. Well see how it holds up with the ET street radials I plan on throwing on her.
This seems reasonable. Do they make the clutches and components? How is the pedal feel and stuff?
My king cobra is funny how all of a sudden it started slipping. I wonder if the main seal is leaking on it or something. I broke the rear no so long ago running that clutch. So it was working good.
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This seems reasonable. Do they make the clutches and components? How is the pedal feel and stuff?
My king cobra is funny how all of a sudden it started slipping. I wonder if the main seal is leaking on it or something. I broke the rear no so long ago running that clutch. So it was working good.
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The pedal feel is not much worse than stock....if any. He custom makes the clutches and I believe matches them up to pressure plates which he chooses. I'm not sure what else he sells....but he makes a kick ass product. In my case he requested I call back from time to time to see how it's working, so he seems to care quite a bit about customer satisfaction.
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3618 Sheffer Ave
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You can talk to either Dan Or Jerry.

I just talked to Jerry and for the stock 10 spline setup he quoted $260 for the ceramic 8 puck setup including pressure plate and pilot/to bearings.
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Ordered an 8 button ceramic clutch from Clutch Dynamics. Really cool and knowlegable.
These guys are totally old school, no website, no ads, no creditcards.
Millhouse-is yours a 6 puck? He was saying the older ones were 6 but he switched to 8 for better engagement.
Seems he makes alot of clutches for tractor pulls Gotta have some major clutch there.
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Ordered an 8 button ceramic clutch from Clutch Dynamics. Really cool and knowlegable.
These guys are totally old school, no website, no ads, no creditcards.
Millhouse-is yours a 6 puck? He was saying the older ones were 6 but he switched to 8 for better engagement.
Seems he makes alot of clutches for tractor pulls Gotta have some major clutch there.
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Yeah, they really know their #####~!!!

I can't recall on whether it was a 6 or 8 puck design, but whatever it has worked great!

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I just think it is so cool that in a world of blatent commercialism, overstated promises and price gouging you have some guy quietly manufacturing quality stuff of his own design like that and staying in business by word of mouth.
He said he is working on a twin disk setup that wil fit inside stock bellhousings and cost 400 bucks (as opposed to 1200 for Mccleod). He has some design trick to make it fit.
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I just think it is so cool that in a world of blatent commercialism, overstated promises and price gouging you have some guy quietly manufacturing quality stuff of his own design like that and staying in business by word of mouth.
He said he is working on a twin disk setup that wil fit inside stock bellhousings and cost 400 bucks (as opposed to 1200 for Mccleod). He has some design trick to make it fit.
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I tell ya...word of mouth can go a long way when it makes it to the forums.

A twin disc setup in the stock bell for $400? Nice! It sounds like you've been talking to the same guy (the owner)...as he seems to LOVE his work and takes great pride in it.
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Yeah, this was Dan the owner.
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What are the real benefits of this dual plate clutch set-up?

Is it longevity? More power handling capabilities?

Easier/more precise launches?

Thanks!

If im not turbo yet would this cutch be overkill?
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They'll take more power while retaining a softer pedel... is it over kill well if i didnt have my spec stage III which is goot to 650-700hp that i paid 250 i'd seriously contemplate it....

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I put a spec 3+ in a few years back, it holds the power just fine but it's not quite as user friendly as my old HD motorsport clutches.
if I do it agian it will be a twin disc.
sorry for being a little late Erich.
did you hear the news?

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I'm waiting on the ceramic 8 puck now.
What news?
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I joined a new club.
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Ok-here is this bad boy. I was not disappointed in its weirdness. I hope I can get it this weekend.

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Ok-here is this bad boy. I was not disappointed in its weirdness. I hope I can get it this weekend.

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Hmm...I didn't know they made big red "X" shaped clutch discs.
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This is kind of nuts. I saw the picture come up. Then it disappeared. Now it is back.
It is it really is..........
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Did someone say tractor pulls! I may have to check this man out when the time comes. Good info!

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interesting...i may have to give him a try..

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That pictures sometimes is an X sometimes comes up. Here is a corral version


Took out my old clutch-pretty bad. The flywheel has visible wear. The clutch disc has no radial lines on it. It is about as close to the rivets as you can be without hitting.
The rear seal was certainly the culprit for the oil leaking. Pulled that and slightly nicked the crank. Polished it out. This crazy clutch should be on today.
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That pictures sometimes is an X sometimes comes up. Here is a corral version


Took out my old clutch-pretty bad. The flywheel has visible wear. The clutch disc has no radial lines on it. It is about as close to the rivets as you can be without hitting.
The rear seal was certainly the culprit for the oil leaking. Pulled that and slightly nicked the crank. Polished it out. This crazy clutch should be on today.
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Looks nice!!! I don't think mine quite looked like that. It had the same amount of plates....but I don't remember them being at different radial locations. Keep us updated!!!
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The mainseal, flywheel clutch and pressure plate are on but thats it.
One of the spring clips broke on my clutch fork so that put an end to the festivities. Those things seem to be getting more and more fragile. Crazy when you have this big solid piece of metal KO'd by a tiny clip.
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The mainseal, flywheel clutch and pressure plate are on but thats it.
One of the spring clips broke on my clutch fork so that put an end to the festivities. Those things seem to be getting more and more fragile. Crazy when you have this big solid piece of metal KO'd by a tiny clip.
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Dude, that sucks. Those little snags always seem to happen dont they?
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Finally got the job finished. I like this clutch for sure. No problem on the street. It engages solid. If you are smooth, it is smooth. If you hesitate, it judders a little. But then again it is totally not broken in.
If this can hold the torque, it is a winner for sure.
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Finally got the job finished. I like this clutch for sure. No problem on the street. It engages solid. If you are smooth, it is smooth. If you hesitate, it judders a little. But then again it is totally not broken in.
If this can hold the torque, it is a winner for sure.
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When it's fully broken in the judder will be far less. It never fully went away for meā€¦but as long as you don't try to slip the clutch for an extremely long time, it's a non issue. I haven't had an issue slipping it at the track eitherā€¦so I would imagine your going to be good to go!
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Yeah, thats exactly it. If you are trying to hold it there for a long time, some judder. The funny thing is it forces you to drive just a little better. It is so solid and nice when it engages.
Somehow with the old setup, the car had some vibrations at higher rpm that are now gone. Not sure what that is all about but I'm not complaining.
Now the only things to do on that car are the new master cyl and to change the gears back to 3.27s. However, I just want to enjoy it a big first.
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its been 7-8 months.. are you still liking this clutch?

I am on the search for a new clutch for my t-56 to support 650rwtq

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I used a ram HD clutch and it held 600rwtq no problem
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I curious to know how those tractor pull clutches are holding up too.

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Mine's going strong on 3+ years now!
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its been 7-8 months.. are you still liking this clutch?

I am on the search for a new clutch for my t-56 to support 650rwtq
my Spec 3 is doing the job with over 700rwtq...but we will see after the race gas tune

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