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What e-fan are you running?

I have a Griffin alum radiator with a SN-95 elect fan presently... I think the fan is not adequate with my 'upgraded' front mount a/a intercooler, R-block and turbo setup. I have an Edelbrock mechanical waterpump. Car grad heats up to 200+ in street driving after 20 minutes or after every pass at the strip. Also keeps popping 30A fuses with regularity... am going to upgrade to 10G wire for the fan--already have a 3G/130A alternator. I have about 4 1/4" clearance between the rear of the radiator and the waterpump pulley--would love to go with the MK VIII fan but think it is too deep... ideas???


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Not great, but here's a pic of curret set-up


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You can trim the Mrk 8 fan and it will fit
with a little twisting and end up "just" under the water pump pulley

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Get a fan from a '94 Taurus 3.8L. I got a Dorman one from a local auto parts store for $114 and it has worked perfect for me.

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heres a few pics of my setup. Its a flex-a-lite 180 fan. I run it with a jegs fan kit and have had no problems with it yet. Stay cool.
Its mounted on a Be-cool rad, with custom brackets.



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OK probly catch hell but I have a set of fans off a 99 LS juan camaro.
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Wait, you have a fox body! Why don't u just run the Flex a lite black magic fan setup that most people use? You are lucky, us '94-95 guys cant fit those tall fans.

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Flex-o-crap fans are known for not lasting ............

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I'm just using a simple taurus fan, it keeps my car cool at all times even with my Air to Air (24"*12"*5" core)in front of it.

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Latest issue of Ford Muscle was giving these Maradyne fans good remarks.

http://www.maradyne.com/maradyne_mob...fans/m162.html
Pull 2,000+ cfm at under 20amps and are super thin.
Used by several NASCAR teams too.

They list for about $139 when you Google em.

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I have a dual contour fan off EBAY for like 110 shipped and its worked FLAWLESS.



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Thanks for the tips and suggestions... Think I'll try the '94 Taurus route. Cheaper and a little thinner as well as offset a little from what I've read on here and other sites... flows almost as well as the MK VIII unit. The Black Magic unit is tempting--straight bolt in, new, etc-- just can't see spending that much for something that doesn't perform as well as a MK VIII or Taurus fan??? I saw one guy selling a dual Ramcharger setup out of a late model Mopar that looked interesting... thing flowed over 3000 cfm--anyone know much about those?

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OK probly catch hell but I have a set of fans off a 99 LS juan camaro.
my cooling system consist of two fans out of an lt1 96 camaro, i made some brackets, runs at 180-190, 200 in hot weather and traffic,
i want to change my stock rad in the future, because it is old and ugly.. lol












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I've heard of alot of people running lt1 or ls1 camaro fans. I'm a GM tech and I can honestly say I've never replaced an electric cooling fan on a GM car before. They seem to be the way to go for hot rodders/muscle cars as well.

If you want a dual fan setup to control the fans independently, go with the GM fans. Otherwise, stick with the taurus fan. My car has not run hot since I upgraded to the taurus fan.

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i think you should try replacing your fan motor on your sn95 fan. doesn't sound like its possibly 1.) not wired properly 2.) internal short to ground in the fan motor. How is your sn95 fan activated? are you using a relay and a thermal bulb? if you are wired directly to b+ ignition fed. no wonder you will pop fuses if the fan has an internal short. I've had fans/power sliding door motors and liftgate motors work when hooked to a jumper pack but pop fuses/circuit breakers with good wiring.

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I agree with the internal short in the fan motor. What may be happening is the insulation on the windings is broken down, especially with heat. When the fan heats up, it shorts. For the price though, you cannot beat the taurus fan and it flows more than the SN95 fan.

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Be Cool rad and dual flex-a-lite fan. Had a summit high flow pump on the car but it turn out to be to much and I ended up taking it off for a stock one.



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Mark VIII. There is no substitute.

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Mark VIII. There is no substitute.
Saw the cars in your sig... what radiator are you running? How thick? My prob is I only have 4" or so between rad and water pump pulley--Mk VIII fan is too thick.

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I'm running the fan that comes with the HP kits. I wanna say its just an SH-95 fan. I have no cooling issues even after I swapped over to the AOD.
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Mark VIII. There is no substitute.
I have had a Mark 8 fan a few years now ....... and while it moves a LOT of
air and has been reliable and cheap ($50) .... the amp load those things
draw is MASSIVE.

I've constantly had voltage problems at idle with everything on (a/c, lights, fan, radio )
Even with 200amp alternator.

It's made me re-think my fan choice and start considering swapping in
something else.

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Saw the cars in your sig... what radiator are you running? How thick? My prob is I only have 4" or so between rad and water pump pulley--Mk VIII fan is too thick.
I'm running a Summit AOD radiator and a Mark VIII fan and DCC controller. Yeah it's tight, but it WILL fit. Moved the headlight wires in front of the radiator into the the radiator support where they should be anyway, and ground the snout on the waterpump down flush with the waterpump pulley and use some small headed bolts. Also, you need to trim about 3/4" off the fan shroud. This thing moves air like a mother.

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I'm running a Summit AOD radiator and a Mark VIII fan and DCC controller. Yeah it's tight, but it WILL fit. Moved the headlight wires in front of the radiator into the the radiator support where they should be anyway, and ground the snout on the waterpump down flush with the waterpump pulley and use some small headed bolts. Also, you need to trim about 3/4" off the fan shroud. This thing moves air like a mother.
actaully there is no need to grind on water pump.

after trimming fan shroud just twist and slide the fan in place
so that it's sitting just under the water pump pulley.
Mine has about 1/8th inch clearance, just under the water pulley
to top of fan motor housing.

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actaully there is no need to grind on water pump.

after trimming fan shroud just twist and slide the fan in place
so that it's sitting just under the water pump pulley.
Mine has about 1/8th inch clearance, just under the water pulley
to top of fan motor housing.
True, it fit before, but like you say, it was very tight. The extra 3/4" I gained by grinding the waterpump snout and replacing the bolts with some low heads gave me a little more peace of mind. I guess one could install it upside down since the fan motor isn't centered, but I wanted to retain the factory look, even retained the factory overflow tank. Now I have about an inch of clearance.

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OK--I've been busy. Had it all controlled with a manual switch (ground) on the center console and after checking everything found it was wired with a hodgepodge of 10g, 12g and 14g wire with a relay and 30 amp fuse at the rear close to the battery... pretty cobbled together setup. Now it has a Jeg's fan controller with it setup to come on at 185 and off at 170 degrees, 10g wire all the way and a 40 amp fuse up front--so far it's working perfect. Oh one other thing--I installed a new Ford lower air deflector at the bottom of the radiator support, mine was MIA. If I still have any cooling issues when it gets hotter out I will for sure change to a Taurus or Mk VIII fan...

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