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On3 Performance Turbo Kit Install

Well, after being a die hard N/A kinda guy all these years, I have decided to take a step into the turbocharged world.

My current car is a 1998 Cobra, with a 2003 Mach 1 Longblock. I put 96-98 Cobra Intake cams in it, and with bolt-ons it was making 346rwhp, and good enough for 11.6'[email protected] on Drag Radials with a 1.6 sixty foot.

This car is basically a full bolt-on car, with some suspension and the other "goodies" that push it more towards the "drag car" type.

I will try and keep this thread updated as much as possible with pictures, my opinion on the kit, dyno results, track results....etc. My goal is basically to run 8 PSI, run 10's with ease, and not destroy the T45 I am currently running.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

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  • On3 Performance 4V Forward Facing Turbo Kit
  • ModularSpeed ported intake removed,stock intake installed
  • 30# Injectors Removed, 55# Injectors Installed
  • 90mm LMAF Removed, VMP HPX MAF Installed
  • Stock Thermostat/Housing Removed, Modified Cooling System Installed
  • 4.56 Gears Removed, 3.73 Gears Installed
  • 15x3.5 Billet Specialties/Skinnies Removed, 17" of the same wheel Installed

Initial Impressions

I got the kit a few days after ordering, and everything was there except a few fittings for the turbo/oil lines....and a fitting for the oil filter relocation. I was told that I would have them in a few days after I received the other parts....and that I did. I was contacted to ensure I received them as well.

I have had a few questions here and there about some stuff....and Chad and Mike have been very helpful along the way. They also gave me some recommendations on the install, which I appreciate very much.

Customer service up to this point, A+

The kit......... This kit, when in your hand is very nice looking. I am a VERY picky person, as the On3 gang can probably agree.... There are a few small things I see with this kit, which I feel I could probably upgrade, or "touch" up....but I don't really want to. I want to put the kit on, as it comes....and see what type of gains I get both on the dyno, the track...and the street.

I will be honest, I was very impressed initially.....by the quality of the components....but I know "time will tell" the truth. I am pretty confident I will not have any negative issues with this kit. I did NOT buy this kit to daily drive, nor to put 20,000+ miles on. I bought this kit to put on a car that sees 2,000 miles every 2 years, and stays in my garage 365 nights of the year.

If this kit performs to my expectations, I will be very pleased. And do not think for ONE MINUTE, that is there are small issues/hang ups along the way that I will complain.....as I realize I saved thousands by going this route. If I need to make a cut here, a weld there....or even re-do all the connections....I honestly do not care.


The kit came just about exactly as pictured:


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Gettin her ready


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I was very impatient, installed these in a few hours after the kit arrived....so soon that I forgot to take pictures....my bad







Instructions tell me not to install headers before oil filter relocation....BLAH!



I did not use the hardware that came witht he kit for the header bolts....I used "Stage 8" Bolts as I have always had great luck with them.

I ALSO (which I may regret) decided to use the header gaskets that came with this kit....they are the cheapo type....but I want to use the kit as it is. Anyone including myself can make a kit work, or "better" than it comes....but I have a feeling that this stock motor wont last too long....so I will coat everything and use better stuff the next go around.

Here is the "GT" lower radiator hose I decided to use. I chose to get rid of the 4V style system, to create some additional clearance for the piping in that area. I am installing a Meziere Billet T-Stat housing, along with a Meziere 180deg T-Stat



VMP HPX Maf, VMP MAF Flange, VMP Harness to adapt the 05+ slot style MAF


Meziere Billet T-Sta housing, and T-Stat. AWESOME PART


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Oh man!
This is going to be awesome and i hope it all turns out good for you. Their seems to be mixed reviews with the on3 turbo kits. But anyhow, I'm tuned in.

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Looks great I'm working on finishing my 2003 mach 1 motor conversion into my 1990 foxbody and was looking at this kit. But I have a MM k-member and am debating since I don't want to change that. It looks great though.

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are there any issues with using a gt lower radiator hose and inline t-stat setup on an aluminum block? i have heard that ford did the cobra/mach setup the way they did was to prevent hotspots in the aluminum block. i myself would love to get rid of that bulbous 4v t-stat setup and do an inline t-stat while also changing the plumbing of the coolant crossover.

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are there any issues with using a gt lower radiator hose and inline t-stat setup on an aluminum block? i have heard that ford did the cobra/mach setup the way they did was to prevent hotspots in the aluminum block. i myself would love to get rid of that bulbous 4v t-stat setup and do an inline t-stat while also changing the plumbing of the coolant crossover.
I highly doubt it.

I am a little thrown off by wondering.....how do hot spots get introduced by simply removing a bypass hose?

I will be drilling 3 or 4...3/16" holes in the stat as well, to avoid excessive pressure build up.

Honestly, if the stat is open constantly....I may just remove it completely....and install a restrictor plate.

Something to ponder....Ford had aluminum 2V engines, that were installed in vehicles that could tow 5,000lbs.....and I do not believe those coolant systems were the same as our 4V system.(Ford Explorers)

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nice! i was very interested to see some real world results with this kit. keep us posted on the install and results.

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When you ran the 11.6 what was the race weight and what gears did you have?
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What K member do you have? Do they require a specific K member when running their forward facing headers? This has always been a drawback for me as I am running a full Griggs set up. Curious to know..........

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The 11.6 was done at a race weight of roughly 3160 #'s.

The car had (still has) 4.56 gears in it at that time.


20+ PSI, this kit was designed around the UPR kit. I am pretty sure other K-Members will work....dunno about Griggs.

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The 11.6 was done at a race weight of roughly 3160 #'s.

The car had (still has) 4.56 gears in it at that time.


20+ PSI, this kit was designed around the UPR kit. I am pretty sure other K-Members will work....dunno about Griggs.
that makes more sense!

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that makes more sense!
did something not make sense?

There are quite a few of these kits out there and making upwards of 500rwhp.

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Sweet project! I was wondering, do you have a dyno sheet of the last NA setup? Also how much power to the wheels are you shooting for with this setup on the stock Mach shortblock?
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Sweet project! I was wondering, do you have a dyno sheet of the last NA setup? Also how much power to the wheels are you shooting for with this setup on the stock Mach shortblock?
Sure do. Pretty cool to be able to make 340+rwhp without removing the heads / using stock cams, with 281 cubes huh?



Like stated above, shooting for roughly 500 rwhp.

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Didn't get a lot done last night. Goal was to solder on the MAF, finish up the Oil Filter Relocation, Gap/Install Plugs, and tap/install the oil drain fitting to oil pan. I started working at 10:00....and discovered my solder is missing, and my punch/tap necessary for the oil drain are missing..... I moved recently, and believe those are at my other house...

I was able to install the new NGK TR6 plugs. They were pretty much "pre-gapped" at where I wanted them, but I regapped them anyways....




I also went ahead and cleaned the area where I will be installing the fitting for the oil drain. The hole needs to be 5/8" down from the top of the oil pan....and 1-7/8" to the right of the center of the second oil pan bolt (from left to right)


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Just out of curiosity, how much was the slot style MAF, harness and flange? Does it use the ford electronics?

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did something not make sense?

There are quite a few of these kits out there and making upwards of 500rwhp.
I'm talking about his all motor times. a friend of mine has the same turbo kit on his 2000 gt and it makes near 800 rwhp. I have the hpp kit on my car
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I'm talking about his all motor times. a friend of mine has the same turbo kit on his 2000 gt and it makes near 800 rwhp. I have the hpp kit on my car
your friend makes 800rwhp with an on3 kit?

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Just out of curiosity, how much was the slot style MAF, harness and flange? Does it use the ford electronics?
Mid 200's IIRC.

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Sure do. Pretty cool to be able to make 340+rwhp without removing the heads / using stock cams, with 281 cubes huh?.
Yeah man those are great numbers. I have the same heads and cams set aside for my next build. Wondering how come your HP peaks a lot higher than other people with he same heads and came? Do you have PSR or advanced intake cams?
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Stock runner length.

It peaks where it should, and where most 99-05 n/a 4V's should.

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your friend makes 800rwhp with an on3 kit?
with a masterpower 76mm
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Yeah man those are great numbers. I have the same heads and cams set aside for my next build. Wondering how come your HP peaks a lot higher than other people with he same heads and came? Do you have PSR or advanced intake cams?
are you saying that it peaks higher in the RPM range or the peak power is higher than normal?

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For some reason I was thinking VolsFan and PC Pro peaked at a lower RPM but I went back and checked and I was mistaken.
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Very interested in seeing some 1/4 mile times once you get it back together.

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Your intake is cut and weld ported, stock runner length?
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5/8" down from the top of the pan, 1-7/8" to the right of the middle of the second oil pan bolt (looking from the front towards rear of car)



Grease, 3/8" NPT Tap, Punches, Gasket Maker, and the fitting for the pan:



9/16" Hole Punched



Grease Applied to Tap:



Grease doing its job, lots of metal shavings:



Fitting installed with lots of gasket maker:



Before I button this up, I will be putting the hose ont he fitting, and putting about half a quart of oil through it, to wash away the shaving to the bottom of pan....so when I drain the oil, hopefully any shavings that were missed get drained.

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Had some "low Gloss" paint laying around, looks better.


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Nice write up your doing with this kelly! Curious as to why you took the ported intake off? Also do you have a stock oil pan laying around you want to sell?

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As an owner of the same on3 kit... replace the v-bands. You will save hours and hours of tuning nightmare. It's about $60 to replace them from http://racepartsolutions.com but any quality v-band will work. You should have replaced the header gaskets too.

Also what transmission/clutch are you going to use? I couldn't finish tuning mine at 16 psi because the king cobra clutch would let loose around 5k rpm. I've got a t56/spec stage 3+ going in now.

Lastly, zip tie or clamp every single vacuum/boost line.

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As an owner of the same on3 kit... replace the v-bands. You will save hours and hours of tuning nightmare. It's about $60 to replace them from http://racepartsolutions.com but any quality v-band will work. You should have replaced the header gaskets too.

Also what transmission/clutch are you going to use? I couldn't finish tuning mine at 16 psi because the king cobra clutch would let loose around 5k rpm. I've got a t56/spec stage 3+ going in now.

Lastly, zip tie or clamp every single vacuum/boost line.
You have the Forward kit???

To be honest, I am expecting minor issues. (yes, exhaust leaks to me are minor...lol)

I wanted to make this thread to show people what they get, and how it works. If I have issues, I will state the issues, and how I fixed them.

That being said, I have used Copper RTV many times over the years with great success. I will be putting beads around all the hotside connections before tightening. And I will be letting them sit/cure for about 24 hours.

The header gaskets....well, I have chosen to run the $11 Advance Auto Specials (Fel-Pro) "factory replacements". If they work then I will be very happy, and possibly surprised. The standard gaskets that I received with the kit were a little too cheesy in my opinion. I actually broke one during install on the driver side, as you can see that one is different than the pass side in the photos I posted.

What alot of people don't consider, or even realize is....the metal layered ("Paper") header gaskets have been around for along time....and that's all the old school guys even had to work with for years and years. I have my own experiences with them, and no negative issues.

Not only that, but the main factor (reason) I chose the thicker/softer gaskets was because, I have actually had cheap headers in the past that would not seal with a factory style metal gasket. I attribute that to a cheap(er) style/made 1 piece flange, that more than likely was not true/perfectly straight.

So there are a few different reasons why I am choosing to "try" the cheaper crushed style header gaskets. I feel they should be fine at 8 PSI.

The trans is a built T45. The clutch is a Fidanza 4.3. The clutch is easily capable. The trans, well....we will see. lol

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Nice write up your doing with this kelly! Curious as to why you took the ported intake off? Also do you have a stock oil pan laying around you want to sell?

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Thanks Jamie! How you been??

I pulled the intake off because I feel it will not be needed, and I also know that the majority of the people who install this kit will not have a ported intake on their car. This combo, on 8 PSI "should" make much more than what the general population feels is safe for the bottom end. Removing the ported intake will not be much of a factor in this situation IMO.

I do not have an oil pan, sorry man!

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You have the Forward kit???
No I think you have the first forward kit. I spoke with Chad about switching but it has taken quite a bit longer than expected for them to release it. I'm not sure how you got it to be honest!

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To be honest, I am expecting minor issues. (yes, exhaust leaks to me are minor...lol)
They're minor until you're paying someone for your initial tune and spending hours troubleshooting and readjusting the damn v-bands only to never get them to seal!

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I wanted to make this thread to show people what they get, and how it works. If I have issues, I will state the issues, and how I fixed them.
Sounds like a fair plan.

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That being said, I have used Copper RTV many times over the years with great success. I will be putting beads around all the hotside connections before tightening. And I will be letting them sit/cure for about 24 hours.
Chad recommended copper RTV to me and I used it and it still didn't work. Personally, I believe a v-band should seal without RTV like my current ones do. The on3 v-bands didn't fit right. I was running out of thread on the bolts and they were quite egg shaped after taking them off, cleaning them up and trying to reseal them. In addition, one of the bolts actually bent trying to get it to tighten. It's entirely possible that the quality has improved as I got my kit in April of 2010. I still have them, I should post some pics.

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The header gaskets....well, I have chosen to run the $11 Advance Auto Specials (Fel-Pro) "factory replacements". If they work then I will be very happy, and possibly surprised. The standard gaskets that I received with the kit were a little too cheesy in my opinion. I actually broke one during install on the driver side, as you can see that one is different than the pass side in the photos I posted.
Good plan.

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What alot of people don't consider, or even realize is....the metal layered ("Paper") header gaskets have been around for along time....and that's all the old school guys even had to work with for years and years. I have my own experiences with them, and no negative issues.

Not only that, but the main factor (reason) I chose the thicker/softer gaskets was because, I have actually had cheap headers in the past that would not seal with a factory style metal gasket. I attribute that to a cheap(er) style/made 1 piece flange, that more than likely was not true/perfectly straight.

So there are a few different reasons why I am choosing to "try" the cheaper crushed style header gaskets. I feel they should be fine at 8 PSI.

The trans is a built T45. The clutch is a Fidanza 4.3. The clutch is easily capable. The trans, well....we will see. lol

Thanks for your input!!!
I think your trans and clutch should be fine at 8psi.

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Thank you for your professional responses. It is great to have people like you on these public forums. I appreciate your input, truly.

Enough for the bromance.... I hope everything gets buttoned up soon. I am leaving this weekend to work a race out of state....and have some stuff to take care of before I can touch the car again. Hopefully I will have all the stuff together, and the tune dialed in soon. Shooting for about 2 weeks out.

As far as the vbands, they seem to be pretty decent to be honest. I am familiar with them, and while they don't appear to be the best out there, I honestly think I can make this work. I am fully aware of potential issues, I assure you.

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Thank you for your professional responses. It is great to have people like you on these public forums. I appreciate your input, truly.

Enough for the bromance.... I hope everything gets buttoned up soon. I am leaving this weekend to work a race out of state....and have some stuff to take care of before I can touch the car again. Hopefully I will have all the stuff together, and the tune dialed in soon. Shooting for about 2 weeks out.

As far as the vbands, they seem to be pretty decent to be honest. I am familiar with them, and while they don't appear to be the best out there, I honestly think I can make this work. I am fully aware of potential issues, I assure you.

Thanks again!
Once the temps drop below 100 I can probably finish getting mine buttoned up as well. I've setup data logging for boost so if I ever do switch from the rear facing to forward facing it will be interesting to see the boost curve difference. Honestly though, once I got all the boost and exhaust leaks worked out, it was spooling near instantly so I can only imagine that the forward facing setup must be eaton like! Enjoy!

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Sorry for the delay everyone. I was out of town working.

I will have more updates soon, with a lot of pics.

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