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In another misguided attempt to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, legislation (A.B. 1318) has been reintroduced in the New York State Assembly to establish a progressive purchase surcharge for some new motor vehicles based on state calculations of carbon emissions. Depending on the vehicle purchased, this surcharge could require owners to pay up to $2,500 more for the vehicle. Funds collected under the program would be used in part to fund discounts for hybrids and electric cars. If this effort is successful, the effects on your ability to purchase the vehicle of your choice, not to mention vehicle safety, will be dramatic.



We Urge You to Contact the Assembly Environmental Conservation Committee Members (List Below) Immediately To Request Their Opposition to A.B. 1318

A.B 1318 will limit consumer choice in purchasing vehicles by making popular performance and luxury cars, as well as SUVs, light trucks and minivans, substantially more expensive to own.


A.B. 1318 will potentially lead to more deaths on New York’s highways as higher taxes on larger, safer vehicles forces consumers into smaller cars with higher accident fatality rates.


A.B. 1318 will not conserve energy. Greenhouse gas emissions depends on a host of other factors such as total miles traveled.


A.B. 1318 will do little to improve air quality. Air quality has more to do with overall basic vehicle maintenance than it does with owning and operating any particular class of vehicle.

DON’T DELAY! Please contact members of the New York Assembly Environmental Conservation Committee immediately by phone or e-mail to request their opposition to A.B. 1318.



Please e-mail a copy of your letter to Steve McDonald at [email protected]. Thank you for your assistance. Also, please forward this Alert to your fellow car enthusiasts. Urge them to join the SAN and help defend the hobby! Thank you for your assistance.



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Assemblymember Matthew Titone
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Assemblymember Harvey Weisenberg
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Welfare and taxes, who could possibly need more
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Saw my first VOlt on the interstate yesterday... Looked like a nice little car, other than its a hybrid.
Judging books by their covers are we?

Sorry, I have a hard time referring to anything made by a company that should have gone out of business as "nice". Especially since my tax dollars are funding it.
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Dont get me wrong its a GM. I just meant I liked the design of it, from what I saw, 'looks" like a sleek little car.

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If someone can afford the big price and big fuel costs of a big vehicle, the guzzler tax should be drop in the bucket.
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If someone can afford the big price and big fuel costs of a big vehicle, the guzzler tax should be drop in the bucket.
Bad Bad thinking! What about me that scrimped & saved & got an F150 to pull my trailer for retirement travels. On a fixed income it might just push me over the affordability edge & prevent me from my pursuit of happiness in my later years! Any punitive tax like this is discriminitory & unfair no matter who it affects.

Either you have plenty of income & this doesn't bother you or you cannot afford one & your jealousy is showing...either way bad thinking & obama is counting on you. LOL...not really mad just commenting...

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If someone can afford the big price and big fuel costs of a big vehicle, the guzzler tax should be drop in the bucket.
So the $1000 'gas guzzler' tax I paid on the Shelby is a 'drop in the bucket'?

Amazing that my car is a gas guzzler because its rating shows lower mpgs than a regular GT Mustang (because of the tune, rear-end gears, etc.)

However, on a trip to Vegas, averaging 75 MPH (with a few stints to 110), I achieved 27 mpg, with the AC on.

With everyday driving, I get better mileage than my '04 GT convertible.


I wouldn't be surprised if this legislation makes its way over to diesel trucks - because, as mr. treehugger would say, "you don't need it.. you should pay more."


How about the truck I drive everyday - a 2000 F-350 diesel with 156,000 miles on it.. It'll last longer than a lot of POS imports on the road, meaning it takes less energy/resources to manufacture one vehicle than it does to produce multiple gasoline vehicles. But, as mr. treehugger would day, "it's so big, and dirty, and stinks up the air, so you should pay a tax on it."

Nevermind the fact that it's used to haul a big cabover camper for vacations, a 20' car trailer for car shows, and multiple home depot trips every weekend.

But... as mr. treehugger would say, "that lifestyle comes with a price; pay up."














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Bad Bad thinking! What about me that scrimped & saved & got an F150 to pull my trailer for retirement travels. On a fixed income it might just push me over the affordability edge & prevent me from my pursuit of happiness in my later years! Any punitive tax like this is discriminitory & unfair no matter who it affects.

Either you have plenty of income & this doesn't bother you or you cannot afford one & your jealousy is showing...either way bad thinking & obama is counting on you. LOL...not really mad just commenting...
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Why anyone would live in NY is beyond me.
Because regardless of the crazy taxes and laws, the opportunity to make a lot of money is abundant here. Making a six figure salary is easy
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So what happens when EVERYONE buys a low emission vehicle and they dont have enough tax revenue? bahahahah

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Because regardless of the crazy taxes and laws, the opportunity to make a lot of money is abundant here. Making a six figure salary is easy
What you make isn't as relevant as what your cost of living is. I can assure you it's crazy high in NY so that six figure salary you mention means dick for the most part, though it may make you feel better saying it.

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What you make isn't as relevant as what your cost of living is. I can assure you it's crazy high in NY so that six figure salary you mention means dick for the most part, though it may make you feel better saying it.

I agree the cost of living is very high. Many times it is relative to living elsewhere in the country at lower cost and lower pay.

But the opportunity to make more is definitely here, otherwise why would we put up with this crap.
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Six Figure in NY is a 35K a year income in the rest of the country. In the end, your eating the same foods, and seeing the same movies... only differnce is, in NY your 100 times more likly to die, trying to get to and from work.


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What you make isn't as relevant as what your cost of living is. I can assure you it's crazy high in NY so that six figure salary you mention means dick for the most part, though it may make you feel better saying it.
And he's talking about the NYC area. In the rest of the state you make $30k like everybody else, and that's IF you can find a job because businesses are having such a hard time paying the taxes that they cannot afford to hire anyone.

If I did not have strong ties to my family and the area we've lived in for the last century, I would be living in New Hampshire already.

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And he's talking about the NYC area. In the rest of the state you make $30k like everybody else, and that's IF you can find a job because businesses are having such a hard time paying the taxes that they cannot afford to hire anyone.

Actually I am talking downstate. Westchester, Long Island, and New York Metro. Taxes are a burden down here as well, if not more so. Eventually it will cause its own demise. But until then, opportunity is knocking and business has been good.
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