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Fuel Cell in a Fox

Anybody running a larger than stock tank fuel cell. I know the drag boys are running 5's and 10's but i was wondering if anybody installed say a 20 or 25 and fit it in nice and clean???? anyone?? I know on the factory 5 cobra kits that use our parts they can run a 25...
Not to mention that the stock tank looks like A** from the rear and a bright red or blue fuel safe hanging out just a little would look a lot cleaner with a billet skid plate to boot...


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You could find a Cobra R cell. My friend put one on his Cop Car/Saleen. It holds 20 gallons. Pretty sweet.


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The straps holding the tank were already painted that color, and I didn't have any matching paint.

20 gallon cell.

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20 Gal Cell

Dats da one other than the off center ford logo
Now picture that peeking out from under a cervinis cobra rear valance...YEah baby!
So the barrage of questions comes next.
1. What brand
2. Where is the filler neck
3. Does it use the stock pump.
4. If not, which one and what pick up does it use.

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How much are you willing to spend? The Fuel Safe one that is from the Cobra R is a bolt on and uses the stock filler location. But the price is around $2,000 for a race legal one. I know because I called Fuel Safe last year to get one and I almost had a heart attack when they told me the price.

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22 gal. R here in my 89GT,,it was tight with tailpipes and a Griggs three link but works very well....



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Just subscribing... as I am about to drop in a FFR tank into my 1989 (maybe this week).

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Just subscribing... as I am about to drop in a FFR tank into my 1989 (maybe this week).
Thought you would have done that awhile ago?
Got the fittings worked out?

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Ya, Fuel Safe are soooo nice.. but i can't really imagine spending $2k on just a gas tank replacement for that "look"
Click for pix. http://behindbarsracecars.com/bigpics/foxbody.htm
I have seen this tank installed

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If its just the 'look' ones after, I agree $2K is way too much. But i justify its need because of my SC. I wanted to retain the stock range of the car. And the addition of the SC made fillups way too frequent with the stock 15.4 gal tank.


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Thought you would have done that awhile ago?
Got the fittings worked out?
Yeah, Been sitting on it forever. Didnt wish to fix something that aint broke, and find out at the track 300 miles away in Indianapolis...
Might do it before GingerMan Raceway (roadcourse) this weekend, otherwise it will be one of my winter projects.

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Ya, Fuel Safe are soooo nice.. but i can't really imagine spending $2k on just a gas tank replacement for that "look"
Click for pix. http://behindbarsracecars.com/bigpics/foxbody.htm
I have seen this tank installed

Mustang aluminum fuel tank BBRC
591 12 gallon capacity uses stock
fuel sender. All tig welded
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fittings. $475.99
Is that tank SFI approved? Is there a fuel cell bladder inside?

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Dats da one other than the off center ford logo
Now picture that peeking out from under a cervinis cobra rear valance...YEah baby!
So the barrage of questions comes next.
1. What brand
2. Where is the filler neck
3. Does it use the stock pump.
4. If not, which one and what pick up does it use.

Yaddah yaddah... Thanks
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1. Fuel Safe (but you can't get them in anything but black anymore (neener))
2-4--direct replacment. All stock items used.

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Holy christ!! For 2K that thing better drive itself to my house, paint itself strap itself in and pump my gas when it needs a refill. I might even tell it to do my ol' lady when i am busy wrenching...I fell down just now.

I was cool with around 6 bills but 2k is ridiculous. I have seen the specs and for the life of me cannot figure the 2K breakdown.

As it is for my street car and I am trying to satisfy 2 needs
1. More Fuel for less fill-ups when commuting
2. Good looking peice of Tech just for show-off factor behind my cervini's. If it came in carbon i'd fall over. Don't get me wrong I am not of the Rice Breed (screen name is from racing bikes) but some of the stuff those guys do has a little "Snaz" to it, i must admit. Not many things but some

So the Aluminum alternative doesn't satisfy #1 so no go.

Found these guys through FFR http://www.atlinc.com/suggprice.pdf

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I was told by one of the guys who works at Fuel Safe the reason for the high price. He said that it used to be $1,200 for the "Racing Cell" but Fuel Safe had a firm come in and do cost analysis on their product line. They found that the company was just breaking even with the sale of a few of the fuel cells and the Cobra cell was one that got a MAJOR increase.

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Is this fuel cell, SA110C - Street Cell (20 gal.) - $1170, seen here
compatible with a fox body? Also whats the main difference between the higher priced Fuel Safe cells.

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Ricks hot rod shop now has a tank that will fit.

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i have the polished 110C cell and its beautiful. i love it and would never go back to anything else. its the same tank as the 22 gal but with 2 less gallon space



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Nice looking tank for sure. But it doesn't appear to offer the level of safety that I'm looking for. Maybe it's just me, but fuel lines exiting out of the exposed area of the tank make me a tad paranoid.

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Is this fuel cell, SA110C - Street Cell (20 gal.) - $1170, seen here
compatible with a fox body? Also whats the main difference between the higher priced Fuel Safe cells.

The street cell is not FIA approved and uses the Fuel Safe Enduro (hard plastic) bladder. If safety is your priority then the SA110A is the cell you are looking for.

Both cells will fit in a fox body. I have a SA110A in my 93 Cobra R.

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thats odd, the guy that i got my 110c tank from must have replaced the bladder with the kevlar piece

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The street cell is not FIA approved and uses the Fuel Safe Enduro (hard plastic) bladder.
Does the steet cell offer more protection then a stock tank or such aftermarket tanks as: Glenn's Performance
, Aeromotive etc

What level of racing would not being FIA approved bar me from?

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What racing organization are you planning on racing with? After you answer that I am sure some of the guys who race with that group can chime in.
I can say that from a SCCA standpoint in anything other than Solo2 usually the rule is if the class does not require a saftey item and you use it anyway then it must be up to the standard set in the rules. But it would really come down to you checking with a tech inspector in your region.

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