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post #1 of 25 Old 08-23-2005, 10:56 PM Thread Starter
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IRS swap in a fox

anyone did this swap? gettin ready to do it, found the write up on the internet, but wondered what length bolts to get.
any help is appreciated, thanks

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woah.. wanna share the write up?


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http://www.mouthbreather.net/IRSSWAP.html

http://www.angelfire.com/bug/irs0/pg2.html

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i used the site from mouthbreather.com

i was told the stock 5.0 driveshaft will work. hopefully it does.
starting on it this weekend along with 99 cobra front brakes and spindles and putting the motor back together.
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I don't remember what the bolt length was.
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I will be installing an '03 Cobra IRS into a '91 LX hatch in near the future (once money allows me to purchase bushings, springs, etc.). I may use the webspace provided by my ISP to post the buildup. The buildup would include an aftermarket tubular front suspension (either MM, Griggs, or KB), a DOHC powerplant, and a complete interior/exterior make-over.
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Is the IRS swap really worth it? What are the main benefits over a built up live axel?

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fallstar01 - The main benefits? In my case, I wanted a good mix of handling prowess and ride comfort. I also wanted to stray away from the norm. While a properly set up live-axle is generally believed to be a better performing system than the IRS, currently available parts and modifications are closing the gap.
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fallstar01 - The main benefits? In my case, I wanted a good mix of handling prowess and ride comfort. I also wanted to stray away from the norm. While a properly set up live-axle is generally believed to be a better performing system than the IRS, currently available parts and modifications are closing the gap.
Good reasons. I guess what I'm curious about is: Are there any things that the IRS does, handling wise, that are better than the live axel? and How much ride comfort does the IRS provide over the live axel, especially when closing that performance gap?

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As far as handling goes, the IRS keeps the rear tires planted better over bumpy or uneven surfaces. On good surfaces I don't think there's really much of an advantage over a well set up 3-link or 5-link setup - look at the '05 Mustangs with the live axle kicking butt in Grand Am racing against IRS Porsches and BMW M3s.


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and How much ride comfort does the IRS provide over the live axel, especially when closing that performance gap?
It's supposed to ride much better. The guy I bought my 03 IRS set up from said there was a noticable loss in ride quality with the solid axle and that he briefly considered going back to it. I haven't put it in yet, so I can't give you my own feedback.

I'm really disappointed Ford dropped it from the new Shelby.

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I put an 03 IRS in my 90 hatch.I love it.It was a cinch,I too saw that post on the net.I made a couple of changes ,and found it went very well.
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i got mine in also now, it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. curious, what did u do about the driveshaft?
i was going to pull the yoke off the diff and put a fox one on so i can use my stock driveshaft
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my fms alu. bolted right up
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Cool, Im glad to see a few swapped in. Hows the ride? handling? and have you had it out on a road course yet? Does it behave well in the lighter fox body and does it increase handling beyond what you feel is acheivable with a built live axle? Does the wider track of the IRS effect tire to wheel well clearance? Sorry for all the questions but I do appreciate the answers.

Reason I ask is that Ive got an 87 notchback thats begging to have a 331/tko/irs setup in it for SCCA ITE racing. I've seen what a properly setup IRS can do to solid axle competition and its not been pretty for the other guys. Anthony
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Cool, Im glad to see a few swapped in. Hows the ride? handling? and have you had it out on a road course yet? Does it behave well in the lighter fox body and does it increase handling beyond what you feel is acheivable with a built live axle? Does the wider track of the IRS effect tire to wheel well clearance? Sorry for all the questions but I do appreciate the answers.

Reason I ask is that Ive got an 87 notchback thats begging to have a 331/tko/irs setup in it for SCCA ITE racing. I've seen what a properly setup IRS can do to solid axle competition and its not been pretty for the other guys. Anthony
Hey you just asked all the questions that I had thanks. But I have a 92 Ex-CHP and I'm working on a 331/ TKO-500/ and my boss today said i'll sell you my IRS for dirt cheap. So what do you people think IRS or live axle for road auto- X. Please all thoughts welcome.

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Hey you just asked all the questions that I had thanks. But I have a 92 Ex-CHP and I'm working on a 331/ TKO-500/ and my boss today said i'll sell you my IRS for dirt cheap. So what do you people think IRS or live axle for road auto- X. Please all thoughts welcome.
https://www.corral.net/forums/showthr...7&page=3&pp=35

Here is a really good thread about the issue. I would like to see how the participants feel now with the greater availability of improved parts like the '00 R subframe and less compliant bushings.

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https://www.corral.net/forums/showthr...7&page=3&pp=35

Here is a really good thread about the issue. I would like to see how the participants feel now with the greater availability of improved parts like the '00 R subframe and less compliant bushings.
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Hey you just asked all the questions that I had thanks. But I have a 92 Ex-CHP and I'm working on a 331/ TKO-500/ and my boss today said i'll sell you my IRS for dirt cheap. So what do you people think IRS or live axle for road auto- X. Please all thoughts welcome.
Nice car, I actually bought mine in Sac.

If I was you, I'd call Maximum Motorsports and discuss it with them. They have most of the parts you'll want to buy either way you go, so they should be unbiased. My 92 CHP has the TA/PHB set up, the SVO is going to get the IRS. Hopefully I'll be done soon, and I'll post up some thoughts...

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i haven't got to drive mine yet, put the motor together last night and it's all in the car. gotta put the tranny and clutch in and i'm done. still gotta bleed the brakes some
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just finished mine https://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=693207 don't remember the length bolts I used but the stock d/s works fine. Very straight forward swap just takes awhile if you only have a battery powered drill to work with. good luck

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i drilled the holes, i have big dewalt drill and good bits, still seemed to take about an hour
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Nice car, I actually bought mine in Sac.

If I was you, I'd call Maximum Motorsports and discuss it with them. They have most of the parts you'll want to buy either way you go, so they should be unbiased. My 92 CHP has the TA/PHB set up, the SVO is going to get the IRS. Hopefully I'll be done soon, and I'll post up some thoughts...
Thanks My work is talking to maximum motorsports to try to get a wholesale so I was looking into the grip in a box setup but now I don't IRS or live axel's.

Here is the big question for me what kind of exhaust are you guy's with the IRS running I just bought my exhaust and love it tips and all

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I got the 03 Cobra cat back as part of the deal when I bought mine. No other option except dumps or side exits really. I like tips and I like quiet in a daily driver, so I'd buy the 03 stuff regardless.

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I got the 03 Cobra cat back as part of the deal when I bought mine. No other option except dumps or side exits really. I like tips and I like quiet in a daily driver, so I'd buy the 03 stuff regardless.
Same here I have the hole Magna flow set its so quite drive and nice when on it. I can change the middle part and keep the tips right?

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