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post #1 of 11 Old 07-21-2005, 04:21 PM Thread Starter
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Keep Sway Bars or ditch them?

I'm in the process of installing the following on my 1993 LX 5.0 50% Street, 50% OT car.

1. MM C/C Plates
2. MM Front Coilovers with Bilstein Struts and 325 lb/in Hypercoil Springs
3. MM Rear Coilovers with Bilstein Shocks and 250 lb/in Hypercoil springs.
4. MM LCA's without Spring Perch but with Sway Bar Mount
5. MM Stand Duty PHB
6. EVM Three Link

What are the opinions of reinstalling the stock front and rear sway bars? Should I just leave them off and see how it handles?

Thanks for all opinions,
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I would keep them. You may find that you may need to change the ARB rates to get proper balance though. ARB's make nice fine tuning devices to dial-in a little oversteer/understeer as needed. It appears that your front springs are a little soft relative to your rear springs compared to what I run.

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What spring rates are you running up front? I wonder if keeping the front bar and ditching the rear might keep the car better balanced?

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What spring rates are you running up front? I wonder if keeping the front bar and ditching the rear might keep the car better balanced?
I'm running 375# coilovers in front with a 430# conventional in the rear using a MM TA suspension and stock F ARB. The wheel rates are ~338/210 F/R. Your spring choices come out to ~293/248 F/R wheel rate. You may very well need that front bar.

I had a little push with the stock rear ARB so I went with the MMRSB-4 adjustable unit and ended up on setting #3 for auto-x and #2 for open track and higher speed solo trials. Those settings make the car fairly neutral for the different types of courses. I'm planning on stepping up to 425# front Hypercoils and switching to rear coilovers, MM road race LCA's with 225# Hypercoil springs in a week or so.

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To add to what Glenn said, your rear C/O springs may be a bit much if you don't have a torque arm yet.
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To add to what Glenn said, your rear C/O springs may be a bit much if you don't have a torque arm yet.
He does have a 3 link though. Wouldnt a 3 link and torque arm swap have the same affect on spring choices?

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He does have a 3 link though. Wouldnt a 3 link and torque arm swap have the same affect on spring choices?
I would think so, since you have removed the same binding component(s) in either case, the UCA's. Even so, the rear rates seem to be pretty high in comparison to the fronts. The car could end up tail-happy. I think it's a good plan to try it without the rear ARB initially.
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Sounds like good advice. I wonder why MM suggested these rates to me, I think I was pretty clear on my intentions for the car. I still have the rear springs in the original Hypercoil box, I wonder if I should look at trading them for some 225's or something?

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Sounds like good advice. I wonder why MM suggested these rates to me, I think I was pretty clear on my intentions for the car. I still have the rear springs in the original Hypercoil box, I wonder if I should look at trading them for some 225's or something?
Not sure, unless maybe the switch to coilovers reduces bushing bind even more. I also have the MM K-member and A-arms too. I think your front bushings add to the spring rate where mine rotate freely. That could make a difference in the F to R balance as well.

I guess I'll find out how 225# springs work as soon as I get my rear CO kit installed. It should be arriving today.

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Oops, you guys are right...I musta skipped right over the 3-link bit. Reading for comprehension, dammit!!!

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Oops, you guys are right...I musta skipped right over the 3-link bit. Reading for comprehension, dammit!!!
OK, we'll let it slide this time, but we are gonna be watching you!
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