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Which Oil Cooler to buy?

I just put a new engine in my car and I am having issues with my oil temperatures. So, I am seeking advise on the purchase of an oil cooler.

The engine is a short stroke 347 (4.125 bore, 3.25 stroke) using the Dart SHP block. I have an Aviaid Mangusta oil pan and run a Canton 3 quart Accusump with the electric valve. I have had the car on track once since installing the new motor, and the oil pressure quickly gets to 280+ when I push the car at all. The water temperatures never exceed 190. I am running Amsoil 5w30 Signature Series Oil.

I was very deliberate in determining the oil capacity of the engine, filter, accusump combination before going to the track. Before installing the pan on the engine, I measured the amount of oil needed to reach the bottom of the windage tray (5 quarts). After the pan was installed, I added 5 quarts, marked my oil level and primed the pump to fill the filter and Accusump. I then added oil to bring my oil level back to the full mark. The full system holds 8 quarts.

I am wanting to keep the Accusump and add an oil cooler. I spoke to Canton and they suggested using their 22-726 oil cooler kit and 23-245TA tee to connect the Accusump. They also said not to run a check valve in the system.

Does anyone have experience (good or bad) with the Canton Oil Cooler? Is there a better system you would purchase instead? I need to get an oil cooler installed before my next event (May 3rd). Thanks.

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I am also looking at this:

https://www.jegs.com/i/Mishimoto/690...US-79/10002/-1

Anyone have experience with the Mishimoto Oil Cooler?

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I have the mishimoto sandwich cooler. I think overall it is a good piece, but I do have a leak at one of the banjo bolts. Could be self inflicted though as I never noticed it until I had my car towed for unrelated reasons. I think a tow strap pulled the braided line.

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So, I've been comparing the following oil coolers based on price and performance:

Canton 22-726 19 row 20,500 btu/hr $341.00 for kit
includes cooler, sandwich plate, mount, hoses (hoses need to be cut and fittings installed).

Mishimoto MMOC-MUS-79 19 row btu/hr not specified $363.00 for kit
Includes sandwich plate, mount, hoses (preassembled with fittings)

Mishimoto MMOC-UH 25 row. Btu/hr not specified $379.00 for kit
Includes sandwich plate, hoses (preassembled with fittings)


I have also been looking at installing a Setrab cooler which requires the following parts:

Setrab 50-634-7612 34 row cooler 50,000 btu/hr $282.00
Setrab 22mm to 10AN fittings. Need 2 $9.99 ea
Setrab 6 series mount 23-6002 $38.00
Canton 22-545 sandwich adapter $91.00

I would still need hoses and fittings.

I'm afraid that the Canton and Mishimoto options won't provide enough cooling. The Setrab option will be significantly more expensive, but I know it will provide adequate cooling.
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I've run the Mocal oil cooler set up on my 92 fox body with a hot 331 with a lot of success. Track only car so I went with the no thermostat version. Combined with a good radiator, a 3 quart accusump, canton pan, high volume oil pump and redline 50wt. Link below.

https://www.maximummotorsports.com/M...Kits-C174.aspx

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I've run the Mocal oil cooler set up on my 92 fox body with a hot 331 with a lot of success. Track only car so I went with the no thermostat version. Combined with a good radiator, a 3 quart accusump, canton pan, high volume oil pump and redline 50wt. Link below.

https://www.maximummotorsports.com/M...Kits-C174.aspx
Thanks for the reply. What oil temperatures were you seeing before installing the oil cooler, and after installation?

The Maximum Motorsports website doesn't say, but it looks like a 25 plate cooler. Do you know the specifics?
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I just bought a Derale oil cooler kit, with the oil filter relocation kit, so much cheaper than Mishi. Eventually Ill go from the rubber hoses to SS braided.

I'm using the canton road racing oil pan 7 quart, Canton windage tray and canton oil pickup. The derale cooler doesnt come with a fitting for an oil temp gauge so I'm going to buy an autometer t fitting and install it in the hose and then install my sending unit there for oil temps. The cooler kit adds a quart of oil i believe.

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After rereading the Maximum Motorsports website, I see that their kit uses a 25 row Mocal Cooler. I'm not certain that would be enough cooling capacity for me, so I pulled the trigger on the 34 row Setrab Setup.

Setrab 50-634-7612 34 row cooler 50,000 btu/hr
2 each Setrab 22mm to 10AN 90 degree Push Lock fittings.
Setrab 6 series mount 23-6002
Canton 22-545 sandwich adapter
2 each Aeroquip AQP -10 straight fittings
10 feet of Aeroquip -10 Push Lock hose

I'll document the installation and results soon.
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The Mocal and Setrab 6 Series coolers are very similar, so you can compare the performance of the 25 row Mocal to the 34 row Setrab using the information on the Setrab website:

http://www.setrabusa.com/products/oi...ine/index.html

6-series Setrab ProLine STD Oil Coolers


HP range_________Part Number_________∆P (psi)_________btu/hr range

90-130_________50-610-7612_________4.8/na________15,000-20,000
170-200________50-613-7612_________4.0/4.5________19,000-26,000
190-220________50-616-7612_________3.6/3.8________23,000-32,000
220-310________50-619-7612_________2.5/3.3________27,000-37,000
325-425________50-625-7612_________2.0/2.5________33,100-46,000
400-475________50-634-7612_________1.7/2.2________43,000-59,000
450-550________50-640-7612_________1.6/2.1________45,000-67,000
600+__________50-650-7612_________1.1/1.8________56,000-78,000
600+__________50-660-7612_________1.0/1.7________63,000-90,000

Basically, the 19 row cooler would be fine for a stock 5.0L, the 25 row would be good to around 425 hp, and the 34 row will handle 475. Also, the more rows you add, the less pressure drop will be seen in oil pressure.
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