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Tie Rod ends. Source of 90-93 units?

Doing an 03/04 Cobra rack install on my Fox. While I've purchased brand new fox style inners, I've held off on buying the outers as I'm trying to decide which are the best option.

I'm running Mach 1 springs, stock K-member and a-arms and SN95 94-95 spindles right now on my 1988, so I wouldn't say I'm lowered, but I might in the future. I've read the 90-93 tie rod ends were an improvement over 87-89 units but unsure how.

Problem is every vendor only lists one tie rod end for all 87-93's

It appears the P/N is FOZZ-3V130-AA for the 90-93 units, and the only one available, even listed for 87-89 units. Before I drop $80 on tie rod ends, I'm just wondering if it's really the best choice for my '88, or if I should just order parts store Moog balljoints for a quarter of the cost.

I know there are aftermarket options as well to look at prior to dropping $80 plus shipping for the Ford units, but since I'm not lowered and still running mostly stock suspension parts, it may be unneccesary


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The the stud on the 90-93 tie rod end have a slightly longer shank than the older version. I think this was to help with bumpsteer.

Where did you find 90-93 tie rod ends? When I bought the ones for my car 10 years ago, PPI was the only place I could find them.

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The the stud on the 90-93 tie rod end have a slightly longer shank than the older version. I think this was to help with bumpsteer.

Where did you find 90-93 tie rod ends? When I bought the ones for my car 10 years ago, PPI was the only place I could find them.

Googling the P/N pulls up a number of places selling them for $40 or so. Of course, unsure if these are actual Ford parts. Rockauto also sells Motorcraft MES2150R for $40 claiming it's a replacement for the F0 tie rod ends.

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http://www.oemfordpart.com/oe-ford/fozz3v130aa



Since I couldn't confirm these were actual Ford 90-93 tie rod ends, I ended up buying the Moog ES2150RL ends for my '88. I'll get my Cobra rack setup with these parts, and then if I have any bumpsteer, I'll look at aftermarket parts.

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I'm swapping a 03 Cobra rack into my 79 Pace Car,, did your existing power steering pressure line from your 88 match up on the rack ?
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I'm swapping a 03 Cobra rack into my 79 Pace Car,, did your existing power steering pressure line from your 88 match up on the rack ?
I actually took a day off this coming Monday to do the install.

But I bought all brand new PS hoses and did a test fit and the fox-spec hoses mated up perfectly with the Sn95 rack. If reusing the hoses, just need new Teflon seals (which came with the rack)

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Ok,, so obviously the later Fox PS pumps had a different fitting on the pump. My car being a 79, my PS pressure line did not mate to the 03 Cobra rack. I bought a 93 line and it mated to the rack, but did not fit my 79 pump. Problem solved,, I bought a 93 pump.
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Ok,, so obviously the later Fox PS pumps had a different fitting on the pump. My car being a 79, my PS pressure line did not mate to the 03 Cobra rack. I bought a 93 line and it mated to the rack, but did not fit my 79 pump. Problem solved,, I bought a 93 pump.

I can believe that. Often, all the unique quirks of the earlier cars easily gets forgotten and everyone assumes all Foxes are the same as the 87-93 cars. I'm sure it can make upgrading to later a parts a bit tricky when it seems everything is written or marketed towards the 87-93 cars.

Looking forward to actually getting this swap done. The rack and shaft have been sitting on my bench for some time now. Looking forward to ditching the over-assisted, loose-feeling Fox rack for good.

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I have the rack in the car now, and will be picking up the pump from a buddy on Monday (he pressed off my pulley and put it on the new pump). I'm eager to see how it steers, once its all together. I still have to "clock" my steering wheel, because I have it about an inch to one side, but the MM steering shaft goes on and off so easily that it won't take long. If it wasn't fully compressed, with the rack bolted in, I would have room to take it off and clock it without loosening the rack,, oh well, it'll only take a few minutes.
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Make sure that the rack is centered in its travel and the individual toes set to that first.


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Rack is installed. Wasn't bad, took 6 hrs start to finish taking my time with a lunch break and some time for cleaning.

Centering the rack really wasn't that bad. Had to take the shaft off 4-5 times to get it down. I had it pretty close to begin with, and with steering wheel centered, toe is pretty good and I have equal travel. I didn't have much issue here.

Lines all mated up fine.

What I did have an issue with was the steering shaft hitting the headers. I had to tap the expandable column part in about 1" to get the MM shaft to fit over the splines. As a result, it hits the headers. I almost want to tap the column out that 1" to try and give a little breathing room from the header. Anyone even encounter this issue?
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