Wilwoods new AERO6 calipers and 14x1.25 setup - Ford Mustang Forums : Corral.net Mustang Forum
 1Likes
  • 1 Post By Todd TCE
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 28 Old 09-02-2016, 05:33 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
LT1HAHA's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Franklin, OH
Posts: 2,662
Wilwoods new AERO6 calipers and 14x1.25 setup

My new brake setup came in today. It's Wilwoods new Aero6 6 piston calipers with a 14x1.25 rotor setup. Todd at TCE made a custom bracket for my fox with SN95 spindles as the kit is originally intended for corvettes. I went with the bigger Aero6 setup as it uses a pad that is .80" thick so pads could possibly last me more than double or triple what i am getting out of my Brembo pads now. He also put together a 13x1 rear kit for me that should work well with the new front kit.


I'm running the Brembo cobra R fronts with cobra rears now. I'm going through rotors and pads more than I would like. I could destroy a NAPA Gold cobra rotor in a day at full boogie. Most of the time they would last for a weekend but that was at most. After cracking two of them I switched to the 2 piece setup. The 2 piece setup I'm using are hats that Todd at CC made up and Coleman 13x1.1 rotor. It's a definite improvement over a NAPA or Brembo 1 piece setup.

My car is just getting to fast for a 13x1.1 rotor to take the heat and last more than a 2-3 weekend track events. Im also going through a set of Carbotech XP20 front race pads every weekend! Hopefully the new kit will be easier on consumables....

Anyhow, here are a few pics I snapped today. I've got a race 2 weeks away and I plan on installing everything after that.

Attached Images
File Type: jpg Wilwoods (3).jpg (57.2 KB, 100 views)
File Type: jpg Wilwoods (2).jpg (59.5 KB, 122 views)
File Type: jpg Wilwoods (1).jpg (76.2 KB, 91 views)
File Type: jpg Wilwoods (6).jpg (58.2 KB, 92 views)
File Type: jpg Wilwoods (5).jpg (89.0 KB, 86 views)

91 Road Racing Fox. N/A 383W. Full MM setup front and rear with Bilstein coil-overs. 14x1.25 Wilwood 6 piston fronts with Wilwood 13x1 single piston rears.
486rwhp/ 430rwtq
LT1HAHA is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 28 Old 09-02-2016, 05:39 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
LT1HAHA's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Franklin, OH
Posts: 2,662
And a few more...

Attached Images
File Type: jpg Wilwoods (4).jpg (65.9 KB, 75 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0251.jpg (59.1 KB, 80 views)

91 Road Racing Fox. N/A 383W. Full MM setup front and rear with Bilstein coil-overs. 14x1.25 Wilwood 6 piston fronts with Wilwood 13x1 single piston rears.
486rwhp/ 430rwtq
LT1HAHA is offline  
post #3 of 28 Old 09-02-2016, 08:20 PM
Registered User
 
Trader Feedback: (12)
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Janesville, WI
Posts: 2,474
Wow, those are some brakes. Do they fit behind your Cobra R wheels? Please tell me yes.
ERStettin is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 28 Old 09-02-2016, 10:56 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
LT1HAHA's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Franklin, OH
Posts: 2,662
Unfortunately, no way. Had to go to an 18" rim.

91 Road Racing Fox. N/A 383W. Full MM setup front and rear with Bilstein coil-overs. 14x1.25 Wilwood 6 piston fronts with Wilwood 13x1 single piston rears.
486rwhp/ 430rwtq
LT1HAHA is offline  
post #5 of 28 Old 09-03-2016, 01:00 AM
Registered User
 
Trader Feedback: (12)
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Janesville, WI
Posts: 2,474
What are you going to do with the Cobra R wheels?
ERStettin is offline  
post #6 of 28 Old 09-03-2016, 06:24 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
LT1HAHA's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Franklin, OH
Posts: 2,662
I'm not quite sure yet. Their not in perfect condition or anything as I use them for my track days.

91 Road Racing Fox. N/A 383W. Full MM setup front and rear with Bilstein coil-overs. 14x1.25 Wilwood 6 piston fronts with Wilwood 13x1 single piston rears.
486rwhp/ 430rwtq
LT1HAHA is offline  
post #7 of 28 Old 09-03-2016, 09:01 PM
Registered User
 
Trader Feedback: (12)
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Janesville, WI
Posts: 2,474
I could use my C58's for daily use and the R58's for the track. Let me know if you want to sell them. I have been looking. As long as they are not all banged up, I am interested.
ERStettin is offline  
post #8 of 28 Old 09-03-2016, 09:12 PM
Corral Elite Member
 
Cantbuyitright's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (56)
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 862
Garage
Nice setup. Like to hear how they work compared to the old setup.
Cantbuyitright is online now  
post #9 of 28 Old 09-04-2016, 11:29 PM
Registered User
 
Trader Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: kansas city
Posts: 288
I'm almost scared to ask how much that setup cost you., but (deep breath) how much did that setup cost you?
dashjackson is offline  
post #10 of 28 Old 09-05-2016, 06:50 AM
Registered User
 
02 roush stage 3's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (11)
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: buffalo,ny
Posts: 402
do you use up the rear pads equally as fast?

thats crazy you go through brakes that fast. ive done 3 days at NJMP (10 sessions) and 2 days at Mid Ohio (8 sessions) so far on a set of pads and they will probably last 1 more weekend.

thats a nice setup for sure though!

02 roush stage 3 is offline  
post #11 of 28 Old 09-05-2016, 07:14 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
LT1HAHA's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Franklin, OH
Posts: 2,662
Price wasn't to hateful. I think I paid $2700 for the fronts and $1200 for the rears. Both are a 2 piece rotors. Todd at TCE Performance is a good guy and his prices are fantastic!

The front calipers are also nickel plated so the color doesn't deteriorate or hold the heat inside like a powder coated caliper. I also got the thermolock pistons.


My rear pads last me significantly longer.

91 Road Racing Fox. N/A 383W. Full MM setup front and rear with Bilstein coil-overs. 14x1.25 Wilwood 6 piston fronts with Wilwood 13x1 single piston rears.
486rwhp/ 430rwtq
LT1HAHA is offline  
post #12 of 28 Old 09-05-2016, 12:32 PM
Registered User
 
Trader Feedback: (11)
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Where the Navy sends me...
Posts: 4,125
Quote:
Originally Posted by LT1HAHA View Post
Im also going through a set of Carbotech XP20 front race pads every weekend!
Did you try different pads? I tried XP20s on my CTS-V and they were done in a weekend. I'm now running Raybestos ST43s and have done 3-1/2 events on those and they've got at least another event left, probably a couple more. I've got the replacements on hand already, ST47s, which are supposed to be even better.

Anyway, I suppose it's a moot point now. That new setup should be great!

'89 GT convertible, N/A 357W, MM front susp w/425# coil-overs and Koni D/As, MM TA/PB rear setup (Koni Yellows, 390-430# springs), Stoptech 332mm / 12" Baers, MM 6 point rollbar, Maier 1.5" flared fenders & quarters, 18x9.5" front/18x10.5" rear Enkei RPF-1s (street), 18x10" CCW C-10s (track), etc...
Patrick Olsen is offline  
post #13 of 28 Old 09-05-2016, 04:40 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
LT1HAHA's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Franklin, OH
Posts: 2,662
I never went with anything else as Carbotech is known to be easy on rotors and I was cooking them even with the Carbotechs.

Im buying my wife a 94-95 mustang soon; she wants to try tracking it a little. As such, I'm going to move the Brembo setup to the SN95 which gave me a good reason to go with a bigger setup on mine. Otherwise, my next step was to try a different pad combination.

91 Road Racing Fox. N/A 383W. Full MM setup front and rear with Bilstein coil-overs. 14x1.25 Wilwood 6 piston fronts with Wilwood 13x1 single piston rears.
486rwhp/ 430rwtq
LT1HAHA is offline  
post #14 of 28 Old 09-08-2016, 10:34 AM
Registered User
 
Trader Feedback: (0)
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Northern ca.
Posts: 57
Sweet setup! apparently the Aeros are an awesome and very stiff caliper.

I have a set of W6A calipers on a 14.25" spec 37 1.25 rotor gonna see how well they do, got a smoking deal on a complete used setup and had no front brakes had to jump on it.
v-towncoupe is offline  
post #15 of 28 Old 09-08-2016, 10:22 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
LT1HAHA's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Franklin, OH
Posts: 2,662
What wheels are you using for your setup with the 14.25 rotor?

The Aero caliper is basically a stiffer W6A caliper.

91 Road Racing Fox. N/A 383W. Full MM setup front and rear with Bilstein coil-overs. 14x1.25 Wilwood 6 piston fronts with Wilwood 13x1 single piston rears.
486rwhp/ 430rwtq
LT1HAHA is offline  
post #16 of 28 Old 09-09-2016, 05:26 PM
Registered User
 
wmfateam's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Arizona
Posts: 27
Garage
What was the weight difference between the old and new rotors?

Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza.
wmfateam is offline  
post #17 of 28 Old 09-10-2016, 06:57 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
LT1HAHA's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Franklin, OH
Posts: 2,662
I'm not sure. Beings that the new rotor is bigger and beefier in every way I'm sure it's a bit heavier.

When I start getting things torn down I plan on putting them both on a scale.

91 Road Racing Fox. N/A 383W. Full MM setup front and rear with Bilstein coil-overs. 14x1.25 Wilwood 6 piston fronts with Wilwood 13x1 single piston rears.
486rwhp/ 430rwtq
LT1HAHA is offline  
post #18 of 28 Old 09-13-2016, 07:05 PM
Registered User
 
Trader Feedback: (0)
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Northern ca.
Posts: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by LT1HAHA View Post
What wheels are you using for your setup with the 14.25 rotor?

The Aero caliper is basically a stiffer W6A caliper.
going to be using an 18", car is still in the building stage. the owner of the brakes previously was able to use an 18x10 HRE and forgeline wheel. I'm looking at fikse in 18".

The kit is actually a c5/c6 vette kit. since DSE uses a forged vette caliper with a hub assembly in 5x4.5" all i had to do was re-drill the rotor hat and it all bolted up.

I ended up with this setup out back to fit the full floater, nit the best but should work good on a 85/90 street car 10% track Wilwood High Performance Disc Brakes - Rear Brake Kit Product Number: 140-11877

ended up with this as a master CNC, Inc. - Street Rod Assemblies
v-towncoupe is offline  
post #19 of 28 Old 09-15-2016, 10:25 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
LT1HAHA's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Franklin, OH
Posts: 2,662
What bore did you go with on the MC? That looks interesting. I like the balance bar built in.

91 Road Racing Fox. N/A 383W. Full MM setup front and rear with Bilstein coil-overs. 14x1.25 Wilwood 6 piston fronts with Wilwood 13x1 single piston rears.
486rwhp/ 430rwtq
LT1HAHA is offline  
post #20 of 28 Old 09-19-2016, 10:15 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
LT1HAHA's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Franklin, OH
Posts: 2,662
Got some updates on rotor/caliper weights.

All these weights are with the rotor AND caliper.

13x1.1 Cobra R Brembo fronts with Brembo solid rotor 26.4lbs

13x1.1 Cobra R Brembo fronts with 2-piece rotor (TCE hats Coleman Rotor) 23.0lbs

14x1.25 Wilwood Aero6 calipers with 2-piece Wilwood rotor 26.3lbs

91 Road Racing Fox. N/A 383W. Full MM setup front and rear with Bilstein coil-overs. 14x1.25 Wilwood 6 piston fronts with Wilwood 13x1 single piston rears.
486rwhp/ 430rwtq
LT1HAHA is offline  
post #21 of 28 Old 09-19-2016, 01:44 PM
Registered User
 
Trader Feedback: (0)
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Northern ca.
Posts: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by LT1HAHA View Post
What bore did you go with on the MC? That looks interesting. I like the balance bar built in.
right now both masters I have are 3/4" which is what was there when I bought the assembly second hand for practically nothing, once im ready to have it permanently installed I'm going to place a few phone calls to help with sizing, i'm not to keen on sizing up the masters.
v-towncoupe is offline  
post #22 of 28 Old 10-27-2016, 11:05 PM
Registered User
 
Todd TCE's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (0)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 91
Thanks for the kind words. Decided I'd re join the Corral after a few years off.

Here now for all your Wilwood needs again!
BLWNBYU likes this.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Your one stop...for Wilwood brakes.


* Corvette * Lightning * Impala SS * Focus ST * Marauder * 350/370Z
* MINI * Challenger * WRX * Super Duty * SHO * Mustang *...and more!
Todd TCE is offline  
post #23 of 28 Old 10-30-2016, 11:21 PM
Registered User
 
Trader Feedback: (21)
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bozeman, MT
Posts: 1,860
Subbing..

I have Todd's kit on my Lightning and am considering switching my Cobra from the Brembo F50 setup to the front/rear wilwood kit so it matches lol.
Just a street/show/corner carver..

95 Crystal White Cobra #702
BLWNBYU is offline  
post #24 of 28 Old 11-01-2016, 10:35 AM
Registered User
 
Todd TCE's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (0)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 91
Just got the ol' handle updated to "Authorized vendor etc"...


The SN95 set up above I have offered for quite a few years and sold a few. Not as popular as I'd hoped. Mainly due to the massive caliper body size of the Aero unit taking up wheel space.

I've also gotten a lot of calls lately about the old Baer replacement 2pc hat and rotor kits- formerly the "Corner Carver" kits. I may be up for another run of those if we had enough interested parties. There is also an alternative we can pull from Wilwood inventory to do this today.

Nice to be back in Mustang land again.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Your one stop...for Wilwood brakes.


* Corvette * Lightning * Impala SS * Focus ST * Marauder * 350/370Z
* MINI * Challenger * WRX * Super Duty * SHO * Mustang *...and more!
Todd TCE is offline  
post #25 of 28 Old 11-02-2016, 08:22 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
LT1HAHA's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Franklin, OH
Posts: 2,662
Glad to see you here Todd!

My Aero 6 kit was actually pretty easy fitting. I even opted for the wider bodied calipers to fit the .80 thick pads. The switch to 18" rims is an absolute necessity but there was plenty of "barrel" clearance and plenty of front spoke clearance even with my replica Saleen wheels which are known not to fit with most big brake kits.

91 Road Racing Fox. N/A 383W. Full MM setup front and rear with Bilstein coil-overs. 14x1.25 Wilwood 6 piston fronts with Wilwood 13x1 single piston rears.
486rwhp/ 430rwtq
LT1HAHA is offline  
post #26 of 28 Old 11-16-2016, 11:01 AM
Registered User
 
Todd TCE's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (0)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 91
Wilwood kits can be had for all Mustangs today for "well under $1500" making them an extremely good value for those looking to make a change. In fact you can pick up a four corner kit for you car for as little as $2447 to the door!

Check out the options. Let's make it happen!


1994-2004
2005-2013 KITS
2015+


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Your one stop...for Wilwood brakes.


* Corvette * Lightning * Impala SS * Focus ST * Marauder * 350/370Z
* MINI * Challenger * WRX * Super Duty * SHO * Mustang *...and more!
Todd TCE is offline  
post #27 of 28 Old 12-02-2016, 12:31 PM
Registered User
 
Trader Feedback: (1)
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Sonoma
Posts: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by LT1HAHA View Post
I'm running the Brembo cobra R fronts with cobra rears now. I'm going through rotors and pads more than I would like. I could destroy a NAPA Gold cobra rotor in a day at full boogie. Most of the time they would last for a weekend but that was at most. After cracking two of them I switched to the 2 piece setup. The 2 piece setup I'm using are hats that Todd at CC made up and Coleman 13x1.1 rotor. It's a definite improvement over a NAPA or Brembo 1 piece setup.

My car is just getting to fast for a 13x1.1 rotor to take the heat and last more than a 2-3 weekend track events. Im also going through a set of Carbotech XP20 front race pads every weekend! Hopefully the new kit will be easier on consumables....
I really like the Willood set up.

Your experience with the Cobra R brakes highlights the fact that a brake upgrade is done to better handle brake temperatures. As a car goes faster or gets heavier, the brakes will be subjected to more heat. Therefore, for the guys and gals who drive a heavy car like a mustang hard out on a road course, the "hot" set up is to stuff as much brake as you can afford especially on a heavy car like a mustang. People who don't understand that managing brake temps is the key to better braking will suggest meaningless mustang brake modifications such as " just upgrade the pads and lines" when the real answer to combat heat is to install larger rotors and calipers. Bigger brakes will take more abuse.

An incorrect comment often mentioned when talking about brake up grades is " if you are not locking wheels then what can bigger brakes do for you?" It's tires that are responsible for traction, not the brakes.
norcalsvt is offline  
post #28 of 28 Old 12-06-2016, 09:17 AM
Registered User
 
Todd TCE's Avatar
 
Trader Feedback: (0)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 91
Dec 1st thru Dec 15th 2016


Purchase any 4X Combo kit and get a free set of track pads and two bottles of Wilwood 570 Brake Fluid with that purchase.




Your choice of any TCE stocked race compound (or spare street..) will be added to your order at no extra cost. A value of over $200 for compounds such as Poly H. Also to complete your purchase two bottles of Wilwood high temp 570 brake fluid will be added!




*Simply place your order TCE and shoot me a pm or email about who you are and what extra pads you'd like added to the order. There are a number of pads to choose from on the PAD PAGE including A, B, D, E, H, BP10, BP20.


CALL, PM, STOP IN, SMOKE SIGNALS, CARRIER PIGEON, EMAIL, FACEBOOK, MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE...whatever it takes get in touch with me soon before the deal is done!


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Your one stop...for Wilwood brakes.


* Corvette * Lightning * Impala SS * Focus ST * Marauder * 350/370Z
* MINI * Challenger * WRX * Super Duty * SHO * Mustang *...and more!
Todd TCE is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Mustang Forums : Corral.net Mustang Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome