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What shocks/struts/dampers can handle the highest spring rates?

I currently have MM2, and they go up to 425# springs. The MM3 go to 500# and the Koni DA go to 525, all per MM's website.

I am looking at getting rid of my front swaybar and going to something around 700 to 750 #. What would my option be for a strut? Could my current MM2 handle that? MM3?

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for what its worth, i ended up calling MM. As usual, I received great help (im not sure, why people even go elsewhere for their parts?). With no front swaybar that greatly affects what the strut can handle. A koni DA or maybe even a MM3 could be good to try. I am buying 750# springs and I am going to try them on my MM2 struts to see what happens before pulling the trigger on anything else.

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What's the reason for this? (The interwebs may make that sound like a judgmental question, but it's not - I'm just curious.) I suppose you could take a nice chunk of weight off the nose by losing the swaybar, so that's a plus.

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You would need proper dampeners like Motons, MCS, ASTs, Penskes, etc., for that high of a wheel rate. Didn't know that removing the bar mattered but I guess that makes sense.
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My good friend here 88lxvert has been bitten by the "drift" bug. There he is trying to accomplish more steering angle. By removing the front sway bar you have one less thing obstructing more angle.

He knows that once he removes the front bar he will need to increase spring rate to try to compensate for the loss of the bar.

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I try to keep it on the DL here, but yeah, i've started drifting. My car was set up for, and I did a lot of autocross and planned on track days, but for the experience I tried a drift event last fall. Ive been to maybe 15 this year, already progressed to A group (tandem drifting) and I am trying to enter Pro-am drifting next year.

as escort sportage said, the reason I want to get rid of the front swaybar is that at full lock, my tire hits it. I cut my spindles for quicker steering, and more steering angle. Along with the tire hitting the swaybar, the endlinks come really close to hitting the tierod ends.
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15 events, wow? What are you doing for wheels and tires?
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I pretty much devoted myself to this. Im in my first "career" job. I bought a tow vehicle/ daily driver and told myself I need to get to the track all the time to make it worth dailying something with 13mpg (5.4 expedition, i love it). Ive probably got another 10 to 15 events left. I drift until December. I hit an autocross last sunday, Im still into that stuff, but drifting has taken over.

For tires, I buy peoples OEM wheels cheap. $100 for 4 starfish. I have 10 wheels for drift. 4 for autox stuff and 4 for the street. For tires i go to dealerships/tires places and ask to go through their old stuff. Ive gotten pretty good at picking decent tires from the pile, and Ive made friends with people who work there, so they save me the best ones.

this was last night. my buddy let me use his shop with a real tire changer. I normally use my own harbor freight manual unit. I think I did 14 wheels and tires
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I thought the HF manual unit topped out at 16" wheels? Nice of your buddy to let you use his changer! Those are some great prices on starfish, I usually sell them for $200. My understanding is that, as you progress, you will need R-comps to keep up. But finding discard tires looks like it is working well for you.
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yeah the manual says dont go over 16" wheels, but I do 17s. Youve just gotta make sure you push the bead down into the barrel of the wheel. I also put vicegrips on the wheel to make sure the tire doesnt pop back up (only on some cases). Ive done a 205 40 17 up to a 275 40 17.

And yeah, the better I am getting, I am getting more picky with tires. Id love to score a tire sponsorship so i could use better tires.

I know youre from the boston area, I drift at new hampshire motor speedway a lot. Ill be there drifting the 29th and 30th this month. The 29th is also hot import nights (meh) but A and B group will be drifting the oval and road course. If you're free, gran a sa2005+ helmet and come up and go for some ride alongs. I think its 10 to get in and 20 for ride alongs. theres a few mustangs up there.

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