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handling with mini-tubs?

Just curious, as I'm planning to mini-tub my fox down the road. Since the coilovers are usually inboarded for clearance reasons, is there any way to make it handle well, or does that go out the door at that point?

The car would be straight line first, but I would like to be able to take it to take corners spiritedly. I guess I want my cake and to eat it to. But is that possible? thanks for the info

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Usually full drag suspension does not like to turn and tends to rip cars apart...

Where-as a GOOD twisty setup will launch very well... May not cut you the 1.2-1.4 but I have seen 1.5-1.6 60ft with the torque arms or 3 link setups.

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I was looking at picking up a MM PHB that I found locally, and on MM's site it says that if running fox axles to run spacers to avoid clearance issues...If the car is mini-tub'd and running 11-12" rims, are there going to be issues with that?

How much will moving the coilovers inward hurt my cornering ability?

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Like everything, it depends... It can be done to work well with the exception on the fact that wide rear tires will promote understeer. I keep promising pictures of mine to corralers and I will again attempt to take and post some as it may help here.
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The axle side PHB bracket will interfere with the wheel/tire if you try to bring them in too much. Road racers typically widen the track of the car to get more tire under it.
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yea i know they typically use tiger fenders or similar. if i could find a rear set for a decent price i'd consider going that route instead, and then run a sn95 width axle to push the tires out a little.

CSG, if you have pics and/or specs of your setup please post 'em if you get a chance
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Move the coilovers outboard into the frame rail......




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how did you brace the upper mount? I see the frame rail is notched for the wheel tub. You must be able to fit at least a 325/50R15 in there as well as a 12" rim. Any more pics joeswr400?
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No pics of the top. The top plate is 3/16 steel. The round cup is welded into both sides of the rail. I was planning on tying the upper plate into the rear roll cage bars. The project is on hold for now. Owner died during the build, we're waiting to see what the wife wants to do.

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how big are those tubs? Do you think a PHB would be able to fit on there without issues?

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Those are Wolfe racecraft tubs. Still retains most of the inside factor frame rail. With the coils in place like they are, the stock sway bar still fits. Don't know if a panhard bar will fit.

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that upper mount is exactly what i was planning on doing to my car. Any more pictures. How about making another set.

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Never put too much thought into making them. I'd have to check the price of materials first.

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Well let me know. It would save me some time from having to do it myself.

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Never put too much thought into making them. I'd have to check the price of materials first.
I might be interested in a set as well
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I would take a set as well.
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I will try to get a price for materials tomorrow. Good thing I bought that plasma cutter!! I had to do the first top plates with a cutoff wheel. Ever cut a circle with a circular saw? LOL

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I like how the top of the coilover is captured. Something I did was to use circle track weight jackers with my top mount. I can adjust ride height and shock length independently of each other.
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Sooo, Did you ever figure out a cost to build these??

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