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post #1 of 30 Old 05-14-2011, 10:32 PM Thread Starter
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My track car

I thought I would share a few pics and info. on my track car. The car is a 98 Cobra with 15,000 highway miles

Actually the car was a Bondurant school car. I was shopping for a track car and I came across this for a very nice price. I bought it sight unseen and had it shipped to me. I was expecting a whipped out old race car, but I have been very pleased with it.



The car has had door bars added to each side.



This is bracing from the core support to the k-member:



Floor is cut with a box built in to allow the rear and torque-arm mount to travel higher. The black box between the Halon bottles is the clearenced area:


Front torque-arm mount:


My plan is to wheel to wheel race this season. I have some work to do including some cage mods, but it seems to be a solid start.

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car looks pretty cool. How much did that pipe bender cost you? lol

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Car looks good, great starting point for you!
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Holy smokes! That Coupe in the background looks sicks! Details?
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When I was stationed out in HI there was a guy out there who had bought one of the orange Bondurant school Mustangs and had it shipped out there. I never looked it over much, other than to see that it had the torque arm (which I had read about here or somewhere else online.)

How close is the cage to being legal in whatever class/organization you're planning to run with?

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Are you a midget? Love the control arm art. Some friends wrote some choice statements on another friends oil pan and drive shaft

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The bender is a JD2 model 3. I have around a grand in it with 3 die sets.

Cage just needs some bars added so that will be easy as I can fab and tig it myself.

Midget, no. I modified the seat mounting as much as possible with the materials I had laying around. I hope to make new mounts this weekend. I am trying to keep it adjustable for now as instructors still need to drive this car.

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So what do you suppose all that bracing between the core support and k-member are good for?
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I can only regurgitate that it " adds torsional stiffness". With the way that it is attached I would be surprised if it did much. I forgot to take pics of the bars welded across the spare tire well.

Basic setup:
Eibach 800 / 350 springs
Monroe shocks
Roush torque-arm and panhard bar
Cobra r fuel cell
Dual bottle halon system

Still has the a/c stuff and sound deadening so I need to get all that out. The wheels/tires on it Are off my 94 and are 555 nitto 245/285 setup. I have no use for these tires so I decided to use them up on this car. Once my driving improves I plan to get some real tires in a square setup. I will eventually step up to more spring with appropriate shocks but I am pleased with the handling as is for my current ability.

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agreed that the control arm art is amazing. and I bed that all those bars on the bottom of the rad support are just for crash stiffness. Rad supports always get beat up along the bottom there.


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I am now wondering if there may have been a "pan" attached to those bars? I don't see mounting holes for anything though. The art came free with the car so I guess I got a smokin deal!
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That front brace is really bugging me. It is built extremely strong and then very weakly attached on the front side. On a funny note, the fellow who had this car before me removed the brake cooling ducts because he wanted less front end weight but left this monster on along with tha A/C parts...

I dropped off my extra set of rotors to be turned yesterday. Hopefully they listen and only do a very fine cut to them. I am switching to sp-10 pads and wanted a fresh surface to bed the pads to. I plan to swap pads and rotors, bleed the system, re-attach the brake cooling ducts and modify the seat mounting again to get some more room. Those changes should get me through the revolution school on Memorial Weekend.
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Everyone loves the look of a tubular brace/crossmember or what have you so I can see that the previous owner thought this had some value and left it. Like you and a few others said, I doubt there is any real value to it other than to tie the core support off and give it some additional support in case of a very low impact crash or an off.
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I'm guessing it's simply there to protect against frequent off-track excursions
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I have that JD^2 bender. Love the control arm sun and moon lmao

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cool track car man!

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Thanks everyone for the positive comments. I am going to have a hard time with the contact that will happen racing this car. I actually waxed it, it's that nice. I still have the stripes on the hood as I did not want to remove the number yet, but I plan to finish removing all the blue stripes as I am not a fan of "racing stripes". I am not a wealthy person and I have a hard time with damaging nice stuff, but I want to race...
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Recently, I've watched a few videos on youtube of pretty much brand new cars having driver issues or mechanical issues and getting totally wadded up (a mazdaspeed3, a c5 vette). If you're going to do an HPDE, you have to be aware of the fact that your car might end up totalled. If you absolutely cannot handle that (financially or emotionally), IMO, you shouldn't go out on the track. In your case, since you want to race, you definitely need to be able to accept totally losing the car.
On a side note....in a book I read by Ross Bentley on driving, one thing he said that really stuck out was this: If you can't afford good safety equipment, you can't afford to go racing. .......just something to keep in mind
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Recently, I've watched a few videos on youtube of pretty much brand new cars having driver issues or mechanical issues and getting totally wadded up (a mazdaspeed3, a c5 vette). If you're going to do an HPDE, you have to be aware of the fact that your car might end up totalled. If you absolutely cannot handle that (financially or emotionally), IMO, you shouldn't go out on the track. In your case, since you want to race, you definitely need to be able to accept totally losing the car.
On a side note....in a book I read by Ross Bentley on driving, one thing he said that really stuck out was this: If you can't afford good safety equipment, you can't afford to go racing. .......just something to keep in mind
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I will handle it when it happens, but it will bug me at first. I have a extra cobra complete body already as backup body parts. Thinking of going ahead and painting it and having it all ready to go.
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I will handle it when it happens, but it will bug me at first. I have a extra cobra complete body already as backup body parts. Thinking of going ahead and painting it and having it all ready to go.
well hell, you've got spares, go for it!
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Sharad, you still planning on building that road race coupe?
Looks like you dabble a little in it all like I do. I have a silver coupe street/drag setup similiar to your hatch although I removed the 9.5 deck supercharged stroker & have a big bore turbo deal for it now. I was not smart enough to start with a low mileage car and stripped it to a bare metal unibody and rebuilt from there replacing everything even new OEM quater windows. I would have saved alot by buying an overpriced mint low mile car to start with. I did it the easier and smarter way with the black street car.
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I thought I would share a few pics and info. on my track car. The car is a 98 Cobra with 15,000 highway miles

Actually the car was a Bondurant school car. I was shopping for a track car and I came across this for a very nice price. I bought it sight unseen and had it shipped to me. I was expecting a whipped out old race car, but I have been very pleased with it.



The car has had door bars added to each side.



This is bracing from the core support to the k-member:



Floor is cut with a box built in to allow the rear and torque-arm mount to travel higher. The black box between the Halon bottles is the clearenced area:


Front torque-arm mount:


My plan is to wheel to wheel race this season. I have some work to do including some cage mods, but it seems to be a solid start.

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Thanks, I have been enjoying it. I have made an open track event, a time trial, a 2-day school and practice/qualifying/race with it so far. Next up is to ditch the nitto 555 tires for either some nt05 or nt01 tires in a square setup. I did contemplate selling it as the cost of this hobby is a little more than I expected bit I am trudging through for now.
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I finally drove the black coupe pictured in the background of the pic above. It makes my cobra feel like a dump truck and it has relatively soft coilovers. Thinking I will skip CMC2 and go straight to an AI setup (when I can afford it).

I did order some 17x9.5 wheels and 275 NT-01's for the cobra. They will be on for the next race. I expect the added grip will make the soft wheel rates of the conventional springs that much more noticeable.
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Car is now for sale in the classifieds
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Car is now for sale in the classifieds
The black coupe or the Bondurant car?

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Sorry, The Bondurant car. I would also sell the black car but it would be real expensive.
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So funny as soon as i saw the fox, i was like dayum! Shes clean
Sick track car why u leave stock k member and a arms? U want to stay in a stock class?

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So funny as soon as i saw the fox, i was like dayum! Shes clean
Sick track car why u leave stock k member and a arms? U want to stay in a stock class?
Track car now has a SLA but the stock k-member is still there as I see no reason to change it other than a small weight advantage.

Thanks for the comments on the coupe. I have finally learned that if you want to end up with a really nice car then you need to start with a very nice car so I bought the nicest coupe I could find after a two year search and made the changes that I wanted.
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