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Steering lock removal

Ok, so I had the shop that gutted my wiring harness remove the steering lock as well. I know this is a poor way to describe it, but there is a "clunk" in the steering when I turn the wheel a quarter turn to the left. Is anyone familiar with removing the steering lock and have you experienced this situation? It doesn't seem to have affected the steering but it is annoying.


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The lock is an upside down J shaped rod. If they took it out completely it shouldn't do that. Maybe they just bent it.



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To get the J-rod out, you have to get Neanderthal on it with a very large pair of channel lock pliers. It is not designed to be removed from where it is located. It only takes a little bit of work to disable it, but you need monster pliers to actually remove it. You have to bend it up quite a bit.

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I thought it was rather simple and just bent the rod with a medium set of needle nose pliers, then just pulled it through and tossed it in the trash.
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To get the J-rod out, you have to get Neanderthal on it with a very large pair of channel lock pliers. It is not designed to be removed from where it is located. It only takes a little bit of work to disable it, but you need monster pliers to actually remove it. You have to bend it up quite a bit.
Is this an airbag or non-airbag column? Can anyone supply a pic?

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I know the non airbag columns have them. I'm not sure about the airbag columns.

You can see the top of the J-rod in the photo below.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...h-dsc00907.jpg

It is in the bottom left corner and is held down by the rusty metal tab.

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Anyone know whyyyyy ford decided to install one?
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I know the non airbag columns have them. I'm not sure about the airbag columns.

You can see the top of the J-rod in the photo below.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...h-dsc00907.jpg

It is in the bottom left corner and is held down by the rusty metal tab.
I have both columns and the airbag does not have that setup. (I'll try yours when I get in later).

here is what I did for the newer columns.

There is a ring on the column shaft that has 2 detents cut into it. I tried to remove the ring but ruined a column trying to press (BFH) it off. The solution is to remove the lock assembly as previously described and grind down the sliding tab that mates with the detent in the ring if the key is not turned. I used my bench grinder to grind it down below the housing its in (grind housing too.) it now turns freely key in or key out.

Use the key to compress the spring then stuff something in to kepp it compressed so you can grind the tab down!


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theft...or at least to slow them up a bit!

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Anyone know whyyyyy ford decided to install one?
It is a safety feature. It is there to prevent you from inadvertently turning the the key to lock, thus locking the steering wheel, if you turn the car off when the car is in motion. Think runaway acceleration. Auto Foxes didn't get it since you can't turn the key to lock unless the car is in park.

BTW I did this once on a 76 Trans AM years ago. I had just bought the car and the return spring broke on the carb at full trottle. I got a little excited and turned the key to lock by accident. I was going about 60 MPH and locked the steering wheel with the wheels turned a little bit. Due to the force applied to the steering wheel I was unable to turn the key back on and actually broke off the key. Not a fun experience. Luckily I didn't hit anything.


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i always just stick something like a bolt under it and tap it in..in 13 years of stangs and doing this to tons of them and my friends we never had an issue

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There are two different conversations going on here.

One is the steering column lock, which keeps you from turning the steering wheel.

The other is the key lock, which keeps you from turning the key all the way back to the OFF position, thus activating the steering column lock. When I responded to the J-rod comment, I was referring to the key lock.

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Believe me when I say I have learned a lesson with the conversation......it caused me to meet Mr. Wall! I now just cut the S.O.B out completely!

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If you work hard enough at it, you can completely gut the entire steering column and remove just the 3/4" shaft. That's what I did, then used a circle track style steering column arm w/ 3/4" ID bearing to mount it. Welded a quick release all voila' - a clean simple collapsible steering column. You may not want to go that extreme though...

Had to put a 1" (??) bearing in the firewall too though as I removed the mount tube that bolted to the pedal box.

Stock steering shaft....

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There are two different conversations going on here.

One is the steering column lock, which keeps you from turning the steering wheel.

The other is the key lock, which keeps you from turning the key all the way back to the OFF position, thus activating the steering column lock. When I responded to the J-rod comment, I was referring to the key lock.
I was referring to the column lock...

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Here's an article on replacing the ignition lock and repairing excessive play in the tilt mechanism. Near the end, the author discusses removal of the J rod. Mustang Central.net Steering Column Fix
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