Dude, the GTR has the Z06 beat, regardless. You are starting to sound like the supra kids. GTR's only concern is Zr1, which has 200hp more. If that is possible, then maybe our mustang just needs the right components, like the GTR has. 4000lbs car kicking a 3000lb pound car is impressive. Those nissan guys know what they are doing, i hope mustang peeps go towards that direction.
Do you even have a clue, apparently not so please post the two lap times then we can begin to include facts. Until then please spare me the GTR is madtight yo....
Just so one of us brings some tech:
I agree with TTAC reviewer Stephan Wilkinson : the new Nissan GT-R is the old Honda NSX. Once people actually start driving Nissan‚Äôs ‚Äúeveryday supercar‚ÄĚ‚Äď as opposed to simply jumping on the hype bandwagon and bench racing numbers supplied by Nissan‚Äď they‚Äôll appreciate the parallel. Although I'm still looking forward to my first hands-on experience with the GT-R, the reality of the car‚Äôs true nature and importance in automotive history is right under the fan-boys‚Äô noses.
The GT-R allegedly 'outperforms' thoroughbred supercars at a fraction of the price. Yes, but what price? The sticker price, or the in-your-garage price? Considering the hype surrounding the car and the limited production numbers, it will be years before a single new $70k GT-R will be sold for under $100k. At the moment, comparing the Nissan to say, a Corvette Z06, obfuscates the truth. But what the [Green] Hell‚Ä¶
No small part of the current GT-R lovefest can be attributed to the car‚Äôs 7:38 N√ľrburgring lap time. As TTAC has pointed out, there are real questions about the Green Hellmobile‚Äôs qualifications for the title ‚Äúsecond fastest production car around the ‚ÄėRing.‚ÄĚ The GT-R's suspension was modified from the current Japanese production model, supposedly to reflect the American and European spec. Supposedly. Will anyone get a chance to compare the fabled ‚ÄėRing runner and a final production car? I doubt it.
Meanwhile, the YouTube video of the Nissan‚Äôs ‚Äúhistoric run‚ÄĚ clearly shows that the GT-R had a flying start. All other manufacturers testing at the ‚ÄėRing use standing starts for published lap times. The video also proves that the car's lap time was not measured at the exact same location (start and stop). Take these two factors into account, and the 7:40 claim seems highly dubious.
The icing on the cake: GT-R chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno‚Äôs subsequent admission from that "We used cut slick tyres." If that doesn‚Äôt cancel their claim, nothing does.
In fact, a regular Corvette Z06 would probably beat the GT-R on the N√ľrburgring. When Road & Track tested the GT-R against the Z06 on a track much smaller than the ‚ÄėRing, they concluded that the GT-R was fast in the corners, but they didn't shed a whole lot of light on how the GT-R performed on the straights. Although the ‚ÄėRing has an enormous amount of corners, it also has some of the longest straight-aways in the world.
In Road & Track‚Äôs technical comparo, the GT-R was just as fast to 60mph as the Z06 (despite being less powerful). What many have over-looked is the trap speed at the end of the 1/4 mile. The Z06 is about seven mph faster than the GT-R. When you look at the graph that accompanies these numbers, the GT-R‚Äôs AWD system gave it a clear advantage‚Äď but only at the start. Applied to the Green Hell, the Z06 would outpace the GT-R on the straights.
The Z06‚Äôs fastest recorded lap time at the N√ľrburgring is 7:42.9 This lap was driven in 2005 by Jan Magnussen in 'muggy' conditions. Last year, Chevy revised the suspension on all Corvette models including the Z06. In theory, the new suspension and better weather conditions should be enough for a Z06 to equal or even better the Nissan GT-R's true time of +7:40. When you consider that the Z06 can achieve this time with a GM-standard standing start and production tires, it seems obvious that the GT-R is no match for the Z06 around the ring.
But what does it all mean? Well, not much actually. Every racetrack is different and some cars are suited to some tracks while others are not. The GT-R is suited to smaller tracks like the one R&T used, and the Z06 is suited to longer and faster ones like the ‚ÄėRing.
So why did I bother ranting about this? Nissan has chosen to flaunt its N√ľrburgring lap times to show the world that their new, high-tech Nissan GT-R is the new bang-for-the-buck Alpha. But it‚Äôs not true. The cheaper Corvette Z06 is still the worlds best [unmodified] performance car bargain. What‚Äôs more, if the GT-R cannot handle a stock Z06, then how will it fare against the upcoming ZR1? Never mind the 'almighty' spec V model.
Given the GT-R‚Äôs looks and oft-reported lack of driving feel, there‚Äôs only one reason anyone would buy the uber-Nissan: to own the fastest thing on the road. In the corners, maybe. If you were committed enough to drive at 10/10ths (never mind how ‚Äúeasy‚ÄĚ it is), you could probably blow-off a 911 or similar. Down the straights (the great American pastime), there are faster and cheaper choices‚Äď and that‚Äôs without exploring relatively inexpensive modifications.
In short, the GT-R is an awesome achievement, but Wilkinson‚Äôs right: it‚Äôs not all that.