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looking for good tires

I have been looking for tires looking for in put. here is a few I have these and they have to the worst tire I have ever had
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Model=HTR+Z+II


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Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1

AZENIS RT-615

Fuzion ZRi

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Kumho Ecsta MX


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There's alot of information that has already been convered on those tires, try the search function.

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Tires

First off tell us more about the car. What do you use the car for? What are you expecting out of the tires? What are you willing to pay?
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First off tell us more about the car. What do you use the car for? What are you expecting out of the tires? What are you willing to pay?
My is not a daily driver it's my weekend for fun road trips. Wanting to start to autocross, some track time and drag race once in a while.

1988 coupe, full rear griggs suspension, Front stock k member konis yellows,caster kits, baer brakes,TKO 600, 347motor

looking to spend no more the $700

17/40/255 front

17/40/275 back
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There's alot of information that has already been convered on those tires, try the search function.
I have but haven't came up with info on Fuzion ZRi just looking for more info or option

Thanks Jeff
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I have but haven't came up with info on Fuzion ZRi just looking for more info or option

Thanks Jeff
There's a reason.....no one uses it for a serious street tire when the others you mentioned are out there readily available.
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I'd go with kumho xs... They're a bit soft (which means they might not last as long as the others) but they stick like tar to the road. I havent driven a mustang with them, but my friend has a sentra se-r with them and they're a fast tire. Car and driver did a tire review this month as well and the kumho came out on top for dry as well.

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First, not all of them are going to be available in both 255 and 275 sizes, typically alot of the tires are available in one size or the other.

I have a track buddy who used the Direzza's last year and was damn fast on them, liked them for road manners too. I would personally stay away from Sumitomo and Fusions, I've never heard a good thing about them other than they're cheap (that's why everyone selling knock off wheels on e-bay sells them as part of a "wheel and tire combo"). The Azenis are used by quite a few people and they seem to like them for an all-around tire. Same with the Kumho's. Personally of the tires listed, I'd go with the Dunlops but they don't make 275s in the 17" size. You should also check out the Nitto NT05s.

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The XS is the stickiest of the bunch. The *spec is also an excellent tire but 255 is as big as they come in the 17" flavor.

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The XS has a good variety of sizes and they are reasonably priced.


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There's a reason.....no one uses it for a serious street tire when the others you mentioned are out there readily available.
could you be a little more helpful
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could you be a little more helpful
Let me put it in very plain terms: You're not finding info on the Fuzion tires because they suck, and nobody who knows any better will even consider them in the same league as any of the other tires you listed. But as of now, you know better, so carry on with your search so all the great detail that's been written about the other tires already won't go to waste.
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I have been looking for tires looking for in put. here is a few I have these and they have to the worst tire I have ever had
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Model=HTR+Z+II


Been looking at these



Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1

AZENIS RT-615

Fuzion ZRi

Kumho Ecsta XS

Kumho Ecsta MX
Of this list, only the Dunlops and Kumho XS are worth consideration. The rest are bunk. Yes, I have tried them all. I personally prefer the Dunlops over the Kumho XS due to stiffer sidewalls.

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Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 do not come in a 17/40/275

If there are any more suggestion of other tires

Thank you all for the help
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Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 do not come in a 17/40/275
That has been said. But they do work very well in a 255/40 all around on a '96 Cobra. But if you are more concerned with the staggered look, you've just cut down your choices to one...

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Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 do not come in a 17/40/275

If there are any more suggestion of other tires

Thank you all for the help
Kumho XS comes in that size, 275-40/17.

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How about these nitto NT05

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NT-555 EXTREME ZR
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Let me put it in very plain terms: You're not finding info on the Fuzion tires because they suck, and nobody who knows any better will even consider them in the same league as any of the other tires you listed. But as of now, you know better, so carry on with your search so all the great detail that's been written about the other tires already won't go to waste.


I don't think anyone has covered anything with the NT05's....certainly not me.
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I have 245/45/17 Dunlops on my 97 GT for daily street/autoX use. I just did a two day lapping day event. The first day I was using some pretty old Hoosiers and Kumho 710's. I finally killed them Saturday afternoon and did todays run on my Dunlops. They didn't have quite as much grip as the R tires... but they definately rocked for a street tire!

Car & Driver just did a tire comparo and they rated the Dunlop as their #1 tire. It wasn't as fast as the Kumho XS but it was much better in the rain than the XS.

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Given how close the two tires (Star Spec vs XS) in similar sizing combined with the fact that XS can be run in 275 vs the Star Spec at 255 max, the XS should be the faster dry tire.

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Given how close the two tires (Star Spec vs XS) in similar sizing combined with the fact that XS can be run in 275 vs the Star Spec at 255 max, the XS should be the faster dry tire.
I agree. I think they are faster in the same size in the dry, but I think the jist of opinion of the XS in the C/D article was that they were a hand full in the rain.

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I have the Azenis 615's and am pretty happy with them. If you are budget minded and are a newbie to road type racing these will get you by just fine. No real issues when wet but i don't drive my stang everyday. 255/40/17 have decent sidewalls on my 99 GT wheels.
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I love my 285 Kuhmo XS's, they are extremely sticky in the dry and I've yet to have a problem with them in the wet, in fact they are much better in the wet than my all season Toyo Proxes 4's were. It does make sense though as they are the softest tire available so as long as you're not going charging through big patches of standing water they should/will be fine in the wet which they are.

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I just pulled the trigger this week on a set of Kumho XS in 275/35-18 for my 05 Roush to use in SCCA STU class autocross. I can't mount them until my new wheels come in, so no driving report on them as yet.

Previously I had run the Kumho MX in 275/40-17 and was very happy with the performance until they started getting old and heat cycled out. I probably should have only used them for autocross and not street driven them so much. Still, after 2 years of usage they are much better than the Cooper Zeon's I run on the street. I hope the XS's live up to my expectations.
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You're going to like the Kumho XS Glenn. Good choice, and inexpensive too.

Completely agree on the MX, when I switched to RE-01r's the difference was significant in autocross situations.
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Well I went with Kumho Ecsta XS should be here tomorrow
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Sounds like you made a good choice. Let us know how it goes

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Car & Driver did a comparo test of tires in that price range a couple months ago. As I remember the XS's were the best in the dry, the worst in the wet.

fwiw, I had the MX's a few years ago when they were all the rage. The worst tire I have ever owned. If it ever comes to pass that Kumho is the last tire manufacturer I'll be walking.

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Car & Driver did a comparo test of tires in that price range a couple months ago. As I remember the XS's were the best in the dry, the worst in the wet.

fwiw, I had the MX's a few years ago when they were all the rage. The worst tire I have ever owned. If it ever comes to pass that Kumho is the last tire manufacturer I'll be walking.
Would you care to expand on that statement and list a few reasons why? Until we have some FACTS you are just putting forth a baseless opinion, not tech or even a driving impression.
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Would you care to expand on that statement and list a few reasons why? Until we have some FACTS you are just putting forth a baseless opinion, not tech or even a driving impression.
I think what he's tryin' to say is that his 245' didn't dead hook with his 400hp clutch drop from 7 grand.
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Car & Driver did a comparo test of tires in that price range a couple months ago. As I remember the XS's were the best in the dry, the worst in the wet.
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I agree. I think they are faster in the same size in the dry, but I think the jist of opinion of the XS in the C/D article was that they were a hand full in the rain.
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I love my 285 Kuhmo XS's, they are extremely sticky in the dry and I've yet to have a problem with them in the wet, in fact they are much better in the wet than my all season Toyo Proxes 4's were. It does make sense though as they are the softest tire available so as long as you're not going charging through big patches of standing water they should/will be fine in the wet which they are.
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First couple times on the track they were mediocre at best. Not quite as much traction as the RE730s I had replaced. Did not communicate their limits as well.

At about half traction left I found they had awful street traction in the dry and they were dangerous in the wet. In the dry any kind of half ass start from a stop resulted in unwanted wheel spin.

I got the hell rid of them. I've used several other brands of tires in the same price class and all we fine.


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These Kumho Ecsta XS are great compared to Sumitomo HTR Z II like night and day now I just have to lean how to drive in stead of burner them off all the time. They might not last long but they stick good thanks to all
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If I get a new wheel combo I'll be looking into running the XS due to their price and size availability.

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No love for the r-comp tires? If I were looking for track tires for a car that saw limited driving (i.e. not a daily driver,) the Toyo R888 would be at the top of my very short list.

1 - They're R-compound tires, so they're street-legal racing tires. Their level of grip is going to be significantly higher than street tires.

2 - They handle water very well. I wouldn't drive them at speed through puddles, but in anything short of a downpour, they're fine (we run the 888's and unshaved RA1's in wet races all the time.)

3 - Unlike the Toyo RA1's, the 888's do not need to be shaved for optimum grip and tire life. (If the RA1's didn't need to be shaved, they'd be at the top of my list.)

4 - The 888's are molded to 8/32", giving it excellent life for an r-comp tire.

5 - Both the RA1's and 888's wear like iron. Because of this, they don't have the highest levels of grip (like Hoosier r-comps, for example,) but are still much better than even the grippiest street tire. Because of their low wear rate, they're the specified tire for many race series including NASA's Camaro-Mustang Challenge and American Iron Series as well as the SCCA SPEED World Challenge.

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