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post #1 of 37 Old 06-07-2009, 09:14 PM Thread Starter
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How detrimental is this?

Just like always, when you're RR'ing something, you find something else. I have no clue how long it's been like this, i've had no recent weirdness with the drivetrain.



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You want to go ahead and replace those before the junks start getting in the ring and pinion.


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Looks like your car gets to sit up on jacks with mine for a little while

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Looks like your car gets to sit up on jacks with mine for a little while
ugh... x2
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I would definitely replace them....if I remember correctly, the side gears are pretty easy to remove???
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Those are your spider gears, right?
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Yep, those are the spiders Mary Jane.

I may stop by a junkyard today and pick up some. I need to go by there to get an F150 axle tube vent. Gonna try the "hose extention" mod i've searched over at C-C.com.
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I tried the F150 fitting, it was too tall. Just pop off the cap on your existing fitting and put a ~20" hose on it. Coil it once and tuck the end up in the area above the rear end, there are body stiffening supports, facing down.

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Thanks! I was prepared to cut on the F150 vent, but knowing you can pop the cap and go from there on the OE one works even better!

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I tried the F150 fitting, it was too tall. Just pop off the cap on your existing fitting and put a ~20" hose on it. Coil it once and tuck the end up in the area above the rear end, there are body stiffening supports, facing down.
Excellent memory jog there, my car is capable now of barfing gear oil out of the vent cap due to cornering loads and this solution is what I'm looking for.


Tony, maybe this is the time for a diff upgrade?
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Running a good synthetic fluid helps a lot also, dino stuff foams way more.

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I thought you wanted that tube to dump into a container, perhaps mounted inside the trunk, to avoid barfing on the track; at least that is what I thought I read.
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Very little if any fluid will make it uphill through 18" of hose, and any that did make it up the hose at all will flow back in.

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Well, here's what I ended up doing(for the vent, at least). I found a fitting that would go in the tube, attached a hose, ran it up over the PHB, then drooped a little then ran it out to the back where I zip tied it up. I used the OE fitting on the axle tube to terminate the end of the hose.

Hopefully this doesn't blow my whole car up, because i'm capable of that.





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I did mine the same way, except I made a catch can out of PVC pipe and attached it to the bumper support. Not sure fluid has ever, or will ever, make it that far, but if it does, I'm not putting it on the track.
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Cool. Thats why I used a clear hose...I wanna see how far it'll go. I figure if the OE breather keeps it off the track, it'll do the same in the new location. I saw a bunch of the rigged/fabbed catch cans. I may do that later if this presents a problem. I think the Gatorade bottle was the "can" of choice on C-C.com.

As for the diff. situation...I ended up just picking up a new set of gears for around a hundred bucks. No one would sell JUST a gear and all the used track locks had over 50,000 miles and they wanted 50 bucks for used ones. Should have them tomorrow and i'll just put in the new gear and keep the others as spares if it happens again.

Also, I had to do some serious grinding on the caliper bracket to get the Cobra rotors to pass through without hitting. Kinda sucked as it's advertised as a "bolt on kit/all you need to go GT to COBRA".
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Cool. Thats why I used a clear hose...I wanna see how far it'll go. I figure if the OE breather keeps it off the track, it'll do the same in the new location. I saw a bunch of the rigged/fabbed catch cans. I may do that later if this presents a problem. I think the Gatorade bottle was the "can" of choice on C-C.com.

C'mon man... Gatorade catch bottles are good karma. Ya gotta have one on the car somewhere.

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I'm more of a Vitamin Water kinda guy. Either that or store brand bottled water with a couple of store brand Crystal Light powder mixes.
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Excellent memory jog there, my car is capable now of barfing gear oil out of the vent cap due to cornering loads and this solution is what I'm looking for.


Tony, maybe this is the time for a diff upgrade?
Sorry, didn't address this post earlier...my blind rage of fixing stuff I had no idea was broke has me, well....blind apparently.

As for a diff upgrade....Hell yea! I don't have FI-Hun'ad bux hangin' out of my wallet. The rear brakes, the new brake pads, and now the 100 bucks for new gears kinda gave me the ol' school yard nut-kick.

If I can get the gears back in today and road test it I may just autocross it this weekend at a local rinky-dink slick track autocross this weekend. We'll see. Hopefully the vent tube, the new rear brakes and gears don't massacre my whole car for some screwball reason. I'm such a pessimist when it comes to working on my car.
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You gone come play at Pelli####ty? I signed up, weather looks decent, small chance of rain. I can't find my "noise", tightened and lubed everything up in the front end and it's still doing it. So I'll resort to the usual plan B...beat the living #### out of it until the noise goes away or something breaks.

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I just got done dropping the car on the tires, but haven't road tested it. We'll see about Pellissippi....i'm not in the least bit fond of that place, but if the weather is tolerable, I just might.
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Cool, we can hit up Smokey Mountain Brewery afterwards. Good beer....and sweet tea for you

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No kiddin', don't forget my salad. Maybe i'll order a Fuzzy Navel and a Zima on the rocks just for you.
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HAHAHA Zima!

You ever try a Gin and Tonic, Specifically Bombay Sapphire Gin and tonic? That stuff is pretty damn good. Expensive, but good.

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No, I like Dr. Pepper and sweet tea.

Well, I test drove the car and.......IT WORKS! The brakes work, don't see any leaks from the diff cover/vent tube, so thats cool.

I do need to go back in and grind on the caliper brackets some more. I've got a slight lathe sound occasionally but nothing serious. Hell, it'd probably clearance itself in about 500 miles.

Also, for the last year i've had this "ka-chunka-chunka" sound from the rear end when you would let the car lug, then push in the clutch. I always assumed it was the ring gear/pinion being worn but the tooth pattern/wear looked good when I took all that out. Well, it doesn't do that anymore as I noticed it within 10ft going down the driveway. I guess the ol' spiders were just worn all to Hell to begin with. Who'da thunk it....
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Good deal!

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FWIW I thought I needed to grind my brackets some more when it turned out to be the diff hungering for friction modifier.
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Sorry, didn't address this post earlier...my blind rage of fixing stuff I had no idea was broke has me, well....blind apparently.

As for a diff upgrade....Hell yea! I don't have FI-Hun'ad bux hangin' out of my wallet. The rear brakes, the new brake pads, and now the 100 bucks for new gears kinda gave me the ol' school yard nut-kick.

If I can get the gears back in today and road test it I may just autocross it this weekend at a local rinky-dink slick track autocross this weekend. We'll see. Hopefully the vent tube, the new rear brakes and gears don't massacre my whole car for some screwball reason. I'm such a pessimist when it comes to working on my car.
I've had my car strand me once back in '06 when it had just had 3.55 gears installed and still had a C5 transmission. Travelling on the highway, the tach was showing an indicated 4300rpm. For whatever reason (), the alternator through-bolts came loose and the innards got mangled. The one and only time I was stranded coming back from an out of town event!

As for fluids, I used Castrol 80W90 dino oil when I did the diff swap which may be contributing to the barfing oil out the vent issues I'm seeing now.

ps: I hear those NOS energy drink bottles work pretty good as catch cans after you're done pouring the contents in the gas tank...

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Oh man, I read about that on the gsxr-forums.
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so this vent tube mod... guessing there is a problem with fluid coming out the vent???
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Not really. Just some seepage making a little mess around the breather. I was in the axle area anyway, and felt like messing with stuff.
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Not really. Just some seepage making a little mess around the breather. I was in the axle area anyway, and felt like messing with stuff.
lol...
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Not really. Just some seepage making a little mess around the breather. I was in the axle area anyway, and felt like messing with stuff.
And that's how the human race advances: See annoying problem, bitch about it a little and then improve upon the situation.

I still haven't done any "messing around" with my car's vent tube yet but it and installing long wheel studs (stupid wheel spacers. Grrr) are on the "to do" list.
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