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Best tire with 140+ treadwear rating

I'm getting to the point where my 2 year old Azenis will be needing to be replaced. I'm needing two 315/30/18 and two 275/35/18 tires.

I've browsed the tire places online and it looks like I have 3 choices. The Dunlop Direzza Star SPEC, the Kumho XS and the Nitto NT-05.

I've tried some search strings on google but can't really get my question answered. Specifically i'm looking for what tire will provide the best grip/longevity for HEAVY cars.

My current Azenis don't like heat and my 37-whatever pound car, they just get greasy and go away.

I was wondering if anyone had any experience or feedback on any of these tires. I know MFE has built a shrine to the Star Spec's and honestly that is my current choice of tire. Also, a local STI runs that tire and is only .9 slower than his Hoosier A6 tire runs.

Before I made any purchases, I was hoping to get some feedback from the Mustang community.

Thanks. And yes, I will probably hafta' mix tire brands front to back for my size needs as one company doesn't offer both of my needs. No biggie, i'm OK with that.

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I don't know how receptive you would be to this, but if you were comfortable running a 295 out back and a 275 up front you could get NT-05's.


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I wouldn't mind running a 275 Star spec up front and a Kumho XS rear tire. Or an NT05 up front... I'm pretty much set on the Kumho for the back, but since the front takes soo much abuse on my car, i'd like the better of the 3 choices on the front.

However, the "Nitto narrowness" is in my head. Their 315/35/17 drag radial I once ran was narrow. I don't want some "drift looking" tire on my car.

Ideally i'd like to go back to 17" wheels, but i'll stick it out with these.
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I wouldn't worry about the very different characteristics of mixed tire compounds and designs, you can always change your shock settings to compensate...

Doesn't Kumho make the XS in sizes you can use f/r? Those seem to be the best bang for the buck...although the Star Specs are the shnizzit for 140 tread wear for heavier cars.
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I have the Star Specs on my 97 GT that I run in STX. I've been happy with them... but I'm also not a national caliber driver and don't go out and get the latest tire du jour. I have had them get greasy on me toward the end of a 30 minute track session at Midamerica Motorplex if that means anything. That was OK as I was out of brakes and the car was hot all at the same time (those issues are being worked on)

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I wouldn't worry about the very different characteristics of mixed tire compounds and designs, you can always change your shock settings to compensate...

Doesn't Kumho make the XS in sizes you can use f/r? Those seem to be the best bang for the buck...although the Star Specs are the shnizzit for 140 tread wear for heavier cars.
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I have the Star Specs on my 97 GT that I run in STX. I've been happy with them... but I'm also not a national caliber driver and don't go out and get the latest tire du jour. I have had them get greasy on me toward the end of a 30 minute track session at Midamerica Motorplex if that means anything. That was OK as I was out of brakes and the car was hot all at the same time (those issues are being worked on)
Thanks for the feedback. And yes, I can use the Kumho's FR/BK if need be. I just want to try to put the best tire on the front since that seems to be my main area of need.
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You can knock your list down to two choices because the Dunlops aren't available in a 315. Well, I guess you could use them in 275 on front, but you're limited to the Kumhos in the rear.

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You can knock your list down to two choices because the Dunlops aren't available in a 315. Well, I guess you could use them in 275 on front, but you're limited to the Kumhos in the rear.

Exactly my plan/thoughts. I don't mind mis-matching brands. I'll most likely replace my fronts with whatever seems to be the "go to tire" and continue running out my Azenis in the rear. They're slightly above the wear bars. The fronts have been on the wear bars for some time and the insides are nearly slick.

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Trust me...i'd love to, but i've done the truck/trailer and haul tires/change tires/change tires again/haul'em back home thing for a few years. I'm older, weaker and don't heal as quick so i'm done.

So far, the Star Spec's seem to be "the tire".

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Well, after some "SPEC" checking last night, I think i've made my mind up.

I'm actually going to run a 285/35/18 on the front in the Nitto NT-05's They're only .3 or so taller than a 275 version and quite frankly, I don't like the rubber band look i've got goin on in the front, now.

The 275 Azenis also seem to want to curve in on the sidewall part, looking like a 9" wheel is just a bit too wide for the tire. I don't like that all.

A side benefit is that the NT's are like 35$ a tire cheaper than the Star Spec's. Thats 70 bucks....that enough for a garage space at the next HPDE.
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Really? A 9" is too wide for a 275?
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I'll try to snap a picture when I can, buy yea I was as shocked as you. The 275/40/17 V710's on my old Cobra R 9's, the sidewall was more tilted OUT.

The 275/35/18 Azenis' sidewall actually curves in(not horrible, but noticeable). Something like you'd see on a drift car.

While that may be optimal for some, i'm going on aesthetics and I don't like it. I don't think another 10mm is gonna be too much.

Hell, the rear 315's on a 10" rim look PERFECT to me. Sidewall absolutely stright up.
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Yeah, the general consensus is that Azenis seems to run a little small for its advertised size.

Star Specs are the cats ass btw, much better than the Azenis IMHO, I run 245's on my 350Z which I occasionally autocross, and the grip is amazing.
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